Journal de Henry

Henry: I’ve had a thought which has changed a lot for me.

Hi Henry,

Ha … it’s not the “thought” which was important but the experience of naiveté “which has changed a lot for me”.

Henry: I’ve been at home convalescing for a few days, and it’s funny because it’s been a bit of a vacation from all the action I usually subject myself to – I’m not rushing into town, off to social engagements, to the various sports I like to play – I’m just hanging out at home with my cat, reading and watching various things on the internet, enjoying the sun on the deck. It’s been really lovely, and a peace has been gradually settling like gentle snow.

I remember you were having a similar experience when you returned from a trip out of town for a few days in April –

>>Henry: All it took was for me to get on a plane and fly an hour from home for ‘me’ to go into somewhat of a hibernation (or ‘holiday!’). All these objects, attachments, ‘needs,’ narratives etc. were discarded and forgotten, why pick them up again? (link)

Is it that you have the ability to shift effortlessly into naiveté but don’t yet value and consciously appreciate it enough, thus lacking the intent to remain naive?

Henry: Yesterday was especially magical, so easy and surprising, and delighting & appreciating this peace & ease. Everything was so easy it was like it has always been like this, all my past depressions and anxiety seem like a bad dream only… the insanities across the globe seem incomprehensible from here (though I understand intellectually).
From this space it occurred to me that anyone I come across could be in a PCE – there’s no special cue that tells me in advance, they absolutely could be and I just wouldn’t know. And the peace and delight this thought gave me revealed something – it showed how scared I have been of other people. I have internalized all the nastiness, meanness, anxiety that everyone is capable of, and have recoiled from it – but this thought that they could be in a PCE pierced that narrative.

While the “thought” was imaginary it nevertheless demonstrated experientially that there is no need to “recoil” from other people when you yourself slip into being naïve – liking yourself and hence equally liking others – and suddenly life becomes genuinely magical.

Richard: Maybe it is suffice to say at this stage that I do stress how essential the pure intent of naiveté is … yet because ‘naïve’ and ‘gullible’ are so closely linked (via the trusting nature of a child in concert with the lack of knowledge inherent to childhood) in the now-adult mind most peoples initially have difficulty separating the one from another. Perhaps it may be helpful to report that, when I first re-gained naiveté (which is the closest a ‘self’ can approximate to innocence) at age 33 years, I would exclaim to whoever was prepared to listen that ‘it is like being a child again … but with adult sensibilities’ (naïve but not gullible). I was soon to discover, however, that being child-like is not it – children are not innocent – and that innocence is totally new to anyone’s experience (it is just that a child is more prone to readily allowing the moment to live one, from time-to-time, than a cynical adult is).
Thus the pure intent of naiveté provides the collateral assurance ‘I’ require to safely give ‘myself’ permission to allow this moment to live me (rather than ‘me’ trying to live in the present) and to let go the controls. Yet it is the direct experience itself which is the fundamental factor when it comes to making the curious decision to abandon both one’s present course and that of one’s peers and plunge into the adventure of a lifetime. (Richard, List B, No. 25f, 22 Jun 2000))

Henry: Suddenly now I’m seeing everyone as a potential collaborator in the fun to be had, rather than someone that might hurt me, an enemy. I have even weaponized actualism, as in “aren’t people so terrible” and thus to be avoided.

The “weaponizing” of what you call ‘actualism’ has its source in not liking yourself, i.e. resent in yourself the ‘bad’ aspects of the human condition. Once you become guileless yourself and like yourself as you are – a product of the genetic heritage everyone is afflicted with – coupled with the sincere intent of doing something about it, then the world becomes a veritable playground.

Henry: And now I can see how it is for a free person – they only meet the actual person. There is no need to recoil – there is appreciation, liking the actual person that they are. And that requires not putting up a defensive wall, I have to really see them, allow that intimacy to occur. And I can see how easy it is to do that now, actually it’s a joy to do because of all the fun to be had.

Be careful to not make a moral or ethical command out of your insight – as in I have to really see them”. Seeing “how easy it is to do that now”, your intent to allow it is sufficient.

Henry: It doesn’t matter if they’re not in a PCE – they probably are not – because it’s clear now that they were never hurting me anyway, it was always me hurting myself. I was ‘protecting’ myself, but all it was doing was keeping this resentment and fearfulness alive. In this space, it’s evident how meagre that life was – no wonder I felt like I was missing something, I absolutely was! (link)

Indeed, it does not matter at all that “they’re not in a PCE” (it was only a fantasy anyway) – because when you are “traipsing through the world about in a state of wide-eyed wonder and amazement as if a child again (guileless, artless, ingenuous, innocuous) – yet with adult sensibilities whereby the distinction betwixt being naïve and being gullible is readily separable” (Richard, List D, No. 4b, 4 Jul 2015)) then you are leaving “resentment and fearfulness” far behind and fun and gaiety are available in abundance and yours for the choosing. When you allow naiveté to flourish everyone is a fellow human being and as likeable as you are.

All that is required now is a sincere attentiveness so as to not habitually slip back into ‘your’ still familiar world of fear and sorrow.

Cheers Vineeto

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It’s funny that I didn’t connect this to naivete when you’re right that it obviously is. My previous attempts to connect with it were lacking its full expression, it seems I was attempting to probe it from within my hiding place. Perhaps a necessary step…

This is so much better than how I have been living.

There’s still some belief in me that there is danger here.

I had some experiences when I was a bit younger where my parents found my carefree approach to life threatening and they scared me quite a bit, I don’t think I’ve fully recovered from that. There is a wall there for me.

My investigation now is to live this and find out for myself.

Yes, I can see this now. My overly analytical approach to investigation has avoided the point up til now.

Maybe I could call it ‘Aktualism’ when it is misunderstood and misdirected like this… many such cases

Noted!

:slightly_smiling_face: :slightly_smiling_face: :slightly_smiling_face:

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Had an interesting insight into myself watching an age of empires final. One of the players (Hera) I’ve been watching a lot lately to the point of becoming a fan of his and rooting for his success. However, I’ve been watching a lot of different games, and today in the final he was playing Mr. Yo, who I have also enjoyed and cheered his success. There was a moment in their first game where Mr. Yo was doing really well, and Hera was suffering, and I found myself suffering right along with him. However, I had a glimmer of remembrance, and questioned why I was suffering: I don’t have a strong stake in Hera winning over Mr. Yo, I want them both to do well actually… it quite shattered the way I normally experience these competitions, where I have one side I exclusively cheer for, I feel good when they win, I suffer when they lose. A new way came into view, as I began to experience purity all around… the now familiar softness of pure intent, and I appreciated the gameplay in its completeness, together with my coffee at my side, my breakfast on my table, the ambience of light in my house, my cat ranging around, the effort the organizers the tournament were putting in, the dedication and talent of the players, and many more things besides… such a contrast to the narrow winning & losing mindset of the ‘fan…’ very pleased to have had this experience, it gives me a clear vision for how to approach these situations in future. And such a central pillar of my identity as a ‘competitor,’ long eroding and now looking like an apparition!

This is all quite fun!

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Adding to this, I can see that the emotion is an element of ally-enemy dynamics: because ‘I’ have set it up that Hera winning = feeling good and Hera losing = feeling bad, for Mr.Yo to win would mean feeling bad, which inherently makes him my enemy, ‘I’ have to wish for his defeat to ‘get to’ feel good. Not seeing Mr.Yo as my enemy broke the entire thing and reminded me that feeling good is actually in my own hands… the feeling good became unconditional… at that point enjoying & appreciation is peace & peacefulness… I am no longer ‘against’ anyone, which is harmonious as well.

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No way, lol. I never thought I’d find a fellow competitive AOE2 enthusiast around here. Ive been following the scene for more than 6 years, and played thousands of hours for 25 years (but I still suck, haha).

The challenge with pro tournaments now is not getting too bored with Hera winning all the time. Liereyy was close to challenge him in the S tier tourney before this one tho!

Maybe we can play later if you play :slight_smile:

Henry: Had an interesting insight into myself watching an age of empires final . One of the players (Hera) I’ve been watching a lot lately to the point of becoming a fan of his and rooting for his success. However, I’ve been watching a lot of different games, and today in the final he was playing Mr. Yo, who I have also enjoyed and cheered his success. There was a moment in their first game where Mr. Yo was doing really well, and Hera was suffering, and I found myself suffering right along with him. However, I had a glimmer of remembrance, and questioned why I was suffering: I don’t have a strong stake in Hera winning over Mr. Yo, I want them both to do well actually… it quite shattered the way I normally experience these competitions, where I have one side I exclusively cheer for, I feel good when they win, I suffer when they lose. A new way came into view, as I began to experience purity all around… the now familiar softness of pure intent, and I appreciated the gameplay in its completeness, together with my coffee at my side, my breakfast on my table, the ambience of light in my house, my cat ranging around, the effort the organizers the tournament were putting in, the dedication and talent of the players, and many more things besides… such a contrast to the narrow winning & losing mindset of the ‘fan…’ very pleased to have had this experience, it gives me a clear vision for how to approach these situations in future. And such a central pillar of my identity as a ‘competitor,’ long eroding and now looking like an apparition! (link)

Felipe: No way, lol. I never thought I’d find a fellow competitive AOE2 enthusiast around here. I’ve been following the scene for more than 6 years, and played thousands of hours for 25 years (but I still suck, haha).
The challenge with pro tournaments now is not getting too bored with Hera winning all the time. Liereyy was close to challenge him in the S tier tourney before this one tho! Maybe we can play later if you play. (link)

Hi Felipe,

In your excitement to find a play-mate you appeared to have missed the main point –

Henry: it quite shattered the way I normally experience these competitions, where I have one side I exclusively cheer for, I feel good when they win, I suffer when they lose. A new way came into view, as I began to experience purity all around… the now familiar softness of pure intent, and I appreciated the gameplay in its completeness, together with my coffee at my side, my breakfast on my table, the ambience of light in my house, my cat ranging around, the effort the organizers the tournament were putting in, the dedication and talent of the players, and many more things besides … [Emphasis added].

There is also Henry’s later addition to his competitor-shattering worldview –

Henry: Adding to this, I can see that the emotion is an element of ally-enemy dynamics: because ‘I’ have set it up that Hera winning = feeling good and Hera losing = feeling bad, for Mr. Yo to win would mean feeling bad, which inherently makes him my enemy, ‘I’ have to wish for his defeat to ‘get to’ feel good. Not seeing Mr. Yo as my enemy broke the entire thing and reminded me that feeling good is actually in my own hands… the feeling good became unconditional… at that point enjoying & appreciation is peace & peacefulness… I am no longer ‘against’ anyone, which is harmonious as well. [Emphasis added]. (link)

Has something happened to cause your interest in actualism to wane since you told Richard in January 2013 that –

Felipe: Hello, Richard, I’ve been practicing the actualism method since July 2011 (link)?

Or has maybe Henry’s report of success in unconditionally feeling good and “peace and peacefulness” perhaps rekindled your attraction to achieve a similar experience in your own life?

Cheers Vineeto

Hey, Vineeto.

It was purely a hobby-related reply rather than actualist-related this time around, but point taken. When I watch eSports like this, it has the potential for both as a distraction to cope with life (be entertained) or an excuse to enjoy and appreciate the moment in such a form. When I watch competitions of this video game in particular there’s a feeling of comfort, of coming home, since it’s been my favorite of all time, so at times I allow myself to use it as platform or background to try to enjoy and appreciate, but mostly is more like traditional entertainment in which I frequently lose track of the actualist awareness, if I am to be honest.

Yeah, I think there’s some cool aspects to be appreciated in this game besides the mere competitive aspect. It’s like a modern version of chess with so many dimensions that make it amusing and elegant: the civilization you pick, how it counters the one picked by your opponent, general strategy, macromanagement, micromanagement, the map generation, even the topology of the terrain matters. So one can appreciate the elegance and skill of the players as they go solving the challenges presented, besides just taking sides as a fan. It’s just a cool, complex, fun video game to me.

That being said, one naturally takes sides in the hopes for the game to be more competitive and hence thrilling. This is where the strong emotional part comes in, as in taking sides, rooting for the underdog, hoping for an even and spectacular game, are all ways to crave conflict and drama as conditional entertainment and cope. This is indicative of such sentiment, when I said:

The challenge with pro tournaments now is not getting too bored with Hera winning all the time.

Though a reason for anyone to watch any sport or movie, I guess even being actually free, is for it to be more engaging in some way (a conflict or a dramatic structure), I guess the difference being that a feeling being craves way more for these emotional condiments and spices in life, and for an actually free person is just a matter of preference. I think Peter, for instance, liked (likes?) watching cricket. So, assuming he still likes watching it, I bet that if the same team won every time 20-0, he’d lose interest and would prefer spending his time differently. So there’s some to that competitive aspect that makes the hobby worthwhile besides the conventional emotional thrill.

It’s been a rocky road for me :sweat_smile:
Not a linear progression, but actualism never entirely wanes. It’s always in the background even when I take detours. Last one was that I started psychosomatizing weirdly when I tried to feel good (I’m guessing because I was misapplying it, making it sudorific or repressing in my last iteration), but I’m returning once again and that’s why I was reading the old messages I missed. As I told you before, some months ago I got to a state that set a rich benchmark that showed me what’s possible, when I had what it seemed like a mini virtual freedom that made me make sense of actualist aspects like never before. I want to reach that again. :slight_smile:

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Hi @Felipe ,

I’ve been randomly running into quite a few players lately, it seems the game has been enjoying quite the renaissance. I only started watching games a few months ago but have been really enjoying it!

I’m down to play sometime, my elo is probably like 500 haha. Maybe a team game! I actually just got a PC set up so I can reliably play without lag.

Competitiveness has been a big big part of my wiring for a long time and it has been an interesting process unwinding it! I’ve found that the best antidote is a sensuous enjoyment & appreciation of the game itself rather than an enjoyment dependent on winning (eg a certain narrative playing out). It’s very instructive to note the two sides of how people enjoy domination or they side with the underdog (and hope for the underdog to dominate!).

A key realization for me has been recognizing that the competitive ‘pecking order’ is very very large so most people fall roughly in the middle. I just looked it up and the peak aoe2 pop in the last 30 days was ~30,000, so you can assume there are 50,000+ that play reasonably often. That means that you and I fall somewhere within that 50,000 pecking order, with thousands above and below us. Any particular matchup we could create a narrative that we’re so amazing at the game, or so shit at the game (with the corresponding spiral into depression). Even if you’re on the top of the food chain, some young gun could come up at any time and unseat you (as the Viper found!). Awareness of the silliness of worrying about where I fall in that competitive hierarchy has allowed me to turn my attention elsewhere, specifically toward that sensuous enjoyment & appreciation.

And in that realm there’s no ceiling to what there is to experience! It continues to expand, and pleasingly I keep getting better at the game, and within that increasing skill ceiling is ever-more enjoyment & sensuousness to be found. I’ve found the exact same to be true in several other domains I play in. It’s a very different orientation than the normal competitive mindset, though I do find that especially after I do some winning that I start to get seduced back to ‘being a winner…’ Ultimately, though, it is rotten. I haven’t even mentioned how every winner needs a loser! And of course if you subscribe to the narratives, any ‘loser’ must spiral into depression, that’s why in the past I sympathized with the underdog - I identified with them and wanted to protect them from that depression, which I empathetically felt as well.

Much better to skip the whole thing :grin:

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The boredom aspect is something worth exploring and has been a bit of a theme among the aoe2 watchers lately! I think it’s worth looking at it because even a subtle, unimportant-seeming emotion can bloom or signal larger themes.

As Vineeto has pointed out before, boredom is a wish to be elsewhere - “I don’t like what’s happening.” Perhaps that’s one thing when it’s straightforward to change what’s happening (though still better to skip the emotion!), frequently one arrives at boredom when there isn’t an obvious next step to take, one feels ‘trapped’ and feels a dullness (which is really subtle dissociation).

In the case of the current age of empires 2 scene, it looks like: Ok, there’s a tournament happening. Hera has some shaky games, but stabilizes by game 3, quickly snuffs out any drama, and wins each set 4-1 or 4-2. By the time the finals come along, everyone is hoping Lierrey or Mr.Yo or Vinchester can compete against him, while feeling a gnawing premonition that Hera will win easily (as he always seems to do). When he finally does win, there’s a “I knew it, he always wins! I don’t know why I even bother watching!” And then stomping off to complain on (insert your favored social media forum).

Because there is no straightforward way to change this state of affairs (you could go train full-time and yourself become the best at the game? Or perhaps fly to Buenos Ares and unplug Hera’s internet at a crucial moment), if there is a negative feeling about the outcome, the boredom comes. That matters because as a form of entertainment, the entire idea of it is that it’s supposed to be fun to watch! So now the thing that’s supposed to be fun is instead producing suffering, that’s an uncomfortable spot to be in. No wonder so many tantrums are thrown! I see this all the time in sports fans.

For me, that very factor of “there’s nothing I can realistically do to change the outcome” is also the best reason to not worry about it, recognize the silliness, and either stop watching if you don’t want to, or just enjoy it for what it is. I find myself enjoying the subtleties of engagements within the game regardless of the score in the series or the past history of winning. For that matter, the consistency and streak are remarkable accomplishments worth appreciating. Seeing the lightning-quick micro, the skillful counters, and the refusal to lose even when all looks lost are things that I’ve enjoyed in the games, and up until the end I don’t know how it will turn out anyway.

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Vineeto: There is also Henry’s later addition to his competitor-shattering worldview – (link)

Felipe: That being said, one naturally takes sides in the hopes for the game to be more competitive and hence thrilling. This is where the strong emotional part comes in, as in taking sides, rooting for the underdog, hoping for an even and spectacular game, are all ways to crave conflict and drama as conditional entertainment and cope. (…)

Hi Felipe,

This is exactly the point – it feels natural to take sides. Wanting to become free from the human condition is not natural, hence sincere intent and ongoing affective attentiveness is required if one wants to make progress in freeing oneself from the various aspects of the human condition.

Felipe: Though a reason for anyone to watch any sport or movie, I guess even being actually free, is for it to be more engaging in some way (a conflict or a dramatic structure), I guess the difference being that a feeling being craves way more for these emotional condiments and spices in life, and for an actually free person is just a matter of preference. I think Peter, for instance, liked (likes?) watching cricket. So, assuming he still likes watching it, I bet that if the same team won every time 20-0, he’d lose interest and would prefer spending his time differently. So there’s some to that competitive aspect that makes the hobby worthwhile besides the conventional emotional thrill.

When ‘Peter’ watched cricket, ‘he’ had no longer an investment which side would win because ‘he’ was well aware that this was an aspect of being part, being loyal to a tribal allegiance. This very allegiance gives rise to taking sides, being emotional about the outcome of any game and ultimately of conflict. In the later years of our association ‘Peter’ had given up watching sport altogether.

Personally, ‘Vineeto’ was never interested in watching any competitive games, ‘she’ only watched the opening of the Sydney Olympics for the spectacle of it. Here is what ‘she’ experienced –

‘Vineeto’: Yesterday I watched the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games and found it an excellent example of the psychic web in action. A band of 2000 musicians from all over the world was playing, all nationalities wearing an identical blue-red-beige uniform, everyone marching in exact formations while playing the various national hymns from all over the world. The audience’s spirit was soaring high, cheers and tears, overwhelmed by the feeling of ‘we are all one’, ‘we are the world’, feeling unity, glory, bliss and love. It is amazing how simple methods – heart-stirring music, uniforms and people marching in formations – can cast an effective spell on the collective human psyche.
However, the feeling of ‘unity’ immediately dispersed as soon as the athletes of all the countries started marching into the stadium wearing their national costumes, under individual flags*.* Then the psychic scene changed, the feeling was now of individual national pride. Each nation was now separate from the other and soon each athlete will be competing against the others for the glory of their particular country and for their own personal fame. The feeling of Unity is but a short-lived feeling … the psychic vibe changes readily when the music changes. (Actualism, Vineeto, List D, James, 17.9.2000)

When you say that “there’s some to that competitive aspect that makes the hobby worthwhile” – this very competition, which you engage in by taking sides, is the very core of your “emotional thrill”. The question is, do you want to keep doing and feeling what one feels “naturally”, or do you have the sincere intent to abandon what feels natural, bit by bit, in a pursuit of becoming more happy and harmless.

Vineeto: (…) Or has Henry’s report of success in unconditionally feeling good and “peace and peacefulness” perhaps rekindled your attraction to achieve a similar experience in your own life?

Felipe: It’s been a rocky road for me.
Not a linear progression, but actualism never entirely wanes. It’s always in the background even when I take detours. Last one was that I started psycho-somatizing weirdly when I tried to feel good (I’m guessing because I was misapplying it, making it sudorific or repressing in my last iteration), but I’m returning once again and that’s why I was reading the old messages I missed.

Whenever you notice that you start “psycho-somatizing weirdly” it is a sure sign that some dissociation from an unwanted, uncomfortable feelings is taking place. Dare to pinpoint this feeling and allow it to be there, to feel it – and you will experience how it diminishes the moment you allow it to be there (it’s already there, just stop pushing it away by trying to forcefully feel good). You will see how the psychosomatic symptom will also eventually diminish (depending for how long you had habitually pushed the particular feeling away).

Then you can allow to be the feeling instead of having (and wanting to control) the feeling. Being the feeling you can see how silly it is to feel bad when instead you can enjoy and appreciate being here. Only then you can choose to be a different feeling, for instance being appreciative.

Felipe: As I told you before, some months ago I got to a state that set a rich benchmark that showed me what’s possible, when I had what it seemed like a mini virtual freedom that made me make sense of actualist aspects like never before. I want to reach that again. (link)

You can look up what you did then in your private journal, what it was that brought on the success. Otherwise you can employ the actualism method more methodically (see also what I wrote to Felix recently (link)). There is also a video where Richard describes the actualism method (link).

Cheers Vineeto

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I have been following geopolitics very closely for around 6 months especially on YouTube, and last night I had an interesting experience which somewhat revealed to me the role of the self.

I was puzzling through what has been happening in Iran and Israel lately and it became apparent that there were a few questions I didn’t have answers to, and I could see that I was kind of hiding from that fact. I realized that I was hiding because I wanted to play the role of someone that is ‘in the know,’ so I could prance about and say important-sounding things about world events. But the truth is that I don’t know much about what is happening on the other side of the world. I found this ‘void’ very threatening, and fortunately I remembered that this was a wonderful opportunity to be attentive to what was happening.

As I watched closely the void evaporated leaving me simply where I was, in the dim midnight light of my house. I could see that my posturing was just a way of ‘building myself up’ to avoid the void, but here there was no need to leave - everything is already here.

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Henry: I was puzzling through what has been happening in Iran and Israel lately and it became apparent that there were a few questions I didn’t have answers to, and I could see that I was kind of hiding from that fact. I realized that I was hiding because I wanted to play the role of someone that is ‘in the know,’ so I could prance about and say important-sounding things about world events. But the truth is that I don’t know much about what is happening on the other side of the world. I found this ‘void’ very threatening, and fortunately I remembered that this was a wonderful opportunity to be attentive to what was happening.
As I watched closely the void evaporated leaving me simply where I was, in the dim midnight light of my house. I could see that my posturing was just a way of ‘building myself up’ to avoid the void, but here there was no need to leave – everything is already here. (link)

Hi Henry,

This is an excellent report of what exquisite awareness-cum-attentiveness can do (link) – the “void” that at first felt “threatening” transformed into “everything is already here”. This feeling of the “void” can happen in many nuances and situations – a ‘lull’, boredom, not knowing what is going to happen next, feeling foolish when an old pattern is seen as no longer applicable. This is the door to naiveté and can, as in your report, lead to the full realisation that nothing needs to change because “everything is already here”.

Perhaps you even experienced that you are already here, in this eternal moment of now, the only moment you can actually experience.

This excerpt of a correspondence might give you even more (experiential) insight about “everything is already here”

CLAUDIU: […]. Another related thing i’m not sure of is from the transcript of one of the audio taped dialogues.
On a phone now so no link handy. But Richard was saying how the nature of infinitude is that it is always here and now. Thus to be here now is to be everywhere at once. I’m not sure what to make of this ‘everywhere’. China for example is pretty far away so how can I be in China if I am here? It makes sense that on the way to china I would also be here. But not that everywhere at once includes china right now. This train of thought already seems silly as I’m typing it out but I’m left without an answer. Ah well! Something to reflect on next PCE. […].

RICHARD: G’day Claudiu, You are, presumably, referring to this:
• [Richard]: ‘The actual experience of the infinitude of space and time is to be ‘everywhere all at once’, because all time and all space are right here … and right now. There is nowhere else but here and no time but now. Anywhere is everywhere and everywhere is anywhere’. (Richard, Audio-Taped Dialogues, Infinitude is the Boundlessness).
It is better explained in ‘Richard’s Journal’. Viz.:
• [Richard]: ‘The purity of life emerges from the perfection that wells up constantly due to a vast stillness which is utterly immense in its scope and magnitude. This stillness of infinitude is that something which is precious. It is the life-giving foundation of all that is apparent. This stillness happens as me. This stillness is my essential disposition, for it is the principle character, the intrinsic basis of everything. It is this universe at its genesis. It is not, as it might commonly be supposed, at the centre of everything … there is no centre here. This stillness, which is everywhere all at once, is the be all and end all of life itself. I am the universe experiencing itself as a sensate, reflective human being’. (pp. 179-180, ‘Richard’s Journal’, Article 25, ‘Peace-On-Earth Is Not The Be All And End All Of Life’; for context see: (Richard, Selected Writing, Actual Freedom).
Thus if you think of it, initially, as the vast stillness which is ‘everywhere all at once’ (as in, there is no centre to physical infinitude) then, when following a train of thought about the audio-taped dialogue regarding the actual experiencing of that vast stillness – where matter-as-energy is the source of everything apparent (i.e., matter-as-mass) – as being a flesh-and-blood body’s essential disposition it will make more sense. (Richard, List D, Claudiu2, 28 May 2013).

Cheers Vineeto

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I’m experiencing the world as being very dependable… rather than trying to form some tenuous narrative, I walk outside and I see a tree… I walk on solid ground… I see the rain fall, and it falls in much the same way it always does. And it’s factual matter and energy interacting.

The being everywhere at once makes sense with this as well. There’s a tree in my field of view and another tree just beyond that tree which is not in my field of view… in a similar sense China (and everything that ‘China’ consists of) is still here, as in of the same universe, the same arena. It’s a different way of experiencing, the ‘porthole’ analogy I think explains the view of the ‘being’ well.

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(Energy & matter not just ‘interacting,’ but one & the same thing! There is a constant process happening analogous to evaporation & condensation.)

One of my occupations is operating various motorized vehicles, and something I have been finding is that, especially because I live in a temperate rainforest, those vehicles have a habit of oxidizing over time, requiring various maintenance, weatherproofing, and repairs. While this is quite inconvenient regarding the continued function of those vehicles, I have been realizing that it is also reflective of the active (not passive!) nature of matter. The metals, plastics, and various other materials that these machines are made up of are constantly interacting with solar radiation, chemically interacting with water and oxygen gas, and warming and cooling (and radiating themselves!). They are never sitting doing ‘nothing’ like some kind of platonic solid.

Everywhere and always these subtle interactions are occurring.

So despite my efforts to make them last forever in a particular state that is to my liking, they continue to change, constantly vibrating and undergoing chemical changes to become something different than they were a moment ago. I can clearly see that this process is fundamental to the nature of the universe, so to be annoyed by it is to be forever annoyed. It’s quite funny to consider being annoyed by the fact that matter is not merely passive!

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Henry: One of my occupations is operating various motorized vehicles, and something I have been finding is that, especially because I live in a temperate rainforest, those vehicles have a habit of oxidizing over time, requiring various maintenance, weatherproofing, and repairs. While this is quite inconvenient regarding the continued function of those vehicles, I have been realizing that it is also reflective of the active (not passive!) nature of matter. The metals, plastics, and various other materials that these machines are made up of are constantly interacting with solar radiation, chemically interacting with water and oxygen gas, and warming and cooling (and radiating themselves!). They are never sitting doing ‘nothing’ like some kind of platonic solid.
Everywhere and always these subtle interactions are occurring.
So despite my efforts to make them last forever in a particular state that is to my liking, they continue to change, constantly vibrating and undergoing chemical changes to become something different than they were a moment ago. I can clearly see that this process is fundamental to the nature of the universe, so to be annoyed by it is to be forever annoyed. It’s quite funny to consider being annoyed by the fact that matter is not merely passive! (link)

Hi Henry,

This is a great observation and realisation and a veritable source of constant delight and appreciation. It is also a fundamental demarcation between materialism and actualism. As Richard said, “We do not live in an inert universe”.

It must be a pretty and pleasant area you live in, “a temperate rainforest”, which makes vehicles and other metals change their status quo faster than elsewhere.

Just one comment – those “metals, plastics, and various other materials”, i.e. the elements and compounds, which constitute all matter and all of which are as old as the universe, are not “constantly vibrating” (except when some power source vibrates them) –

Claudiu: Thus, when I felt something unpleasant in my body, or some persistent tension, the only recourse, meditatively, was to put my attention on it, and notice it as being ‘impermanent’ (that is, as according to MCTB, vibrating in real-time at a certain frequency), ‘not-self’ (that is, as according to MCTB, happening on its own without a ‘self’ involved), and ‘dukkha’ (that is, according to MCTB, unsatisfactory in some fundamental way). The affect itself is taken completely out of the picture. It is noticed, but it is noticed strictly as a physical sensation, and the solution is to do something about that physical sensation. Here is where entering altered states of consciousness helps as it made the psyche more readily able to do something with those sensations.
Richard: (…) In regards to continuing the meditative practise during activities, are chairs, desks, buildings, windows, sidewalks, bricks, rocks, trees, flowers, mountains, and so on, all independently (in and of themselves) vibrating in real-time at a certain frequency as well?
I only ask because I am sitting here, currently sipping from a glass of water in one hand whilst typing with the other, and I am unable to notice – via being this very tasting, touching, smelling, seeing and listening – either the glass or the water to be vibrating in real-time at all (let alone at a certain frequency).
Or is it, perchance, an intuitive noticing (meaning that only an identity has that capacity)? (Richard, List D, Claudiu, 18 Dec 2012).

But perhaps you meant something else when you said “constantly vibrating”?

To contemplate with fascinated attention that none of this matter is neither created nor destroyed, yet constantly changing, and that therefore one is observing – and living in – a ‘perpetuus mobilis’ is wonderful to behold.

Cheers Vineeto

Yes, we get a lot of tourists here to admire the fjords, wildlife, and there is a huge amount of biomass reflected by large trees, dense bushes, and lush moss everywhere. And it rains a lot! Better have a good raincoat.

My understanding is that what we call temperature/heat is a measure of the rate of kinetic energy/vibration occurring in a substance or mass:

“It reflects the average kinetic energy of the vibrating and colliding atoms making up a substance.”

(From wikipedia)

So anything that isn’t ‘absolute zero’ (which is supposed to be unreachable) is vibrating to some extent.

I know that what we call an ‘atom’ is a theoretical structure, but is the vibrating also only a model?

edit: I found this article which describes the first imaging of molecular vibration. In the article they describe that prior to this imaging, the vibrations had been theoretical:

“To date, molecular vibrations have been pictorially explained using wiggling balls and connecting springs to represent atoms and bonds, respectively. Now we can directly visualize how individual atoms vibrate within a molecule. The images we provide will appear in textbooks to help students better understand the concept of vibrational normal modes, which till now had been a theoretical concept.”

However:

image

Scanning tunneling microscopy still depends on a theoretical underpinning re: exactly what it is measuring. A scanning tunneling microscope holds a probe very close to a substance in a high vacuum at very low temperatures. Then a current is passed between the probe and the surface, and changes to that current are measured. Crucially, this still requires some interpretation regarding exactly what those changes in current are depicting. This is where theory re-enters the situation. ‘Vibration’ is how certain behaviors of that current are interpreted. While it may be accurate, it cannot be known for sure.

As an additional aside: the ‘tunneling’ in scanning tunneling microscopy is a reference to quantum tunneling, a theorized mechanic in which " …an object such as an electron or atom passes through a potential energy barrier that, according to classical mechanics, should not be passable due to the object not having sufficient energy to pass or surmount the barrier." Models strike once again!

Part of what is significant here is the demonstration that sense data is the supreme way to experience and interpret actuality. I have found that ‘my’ reality depends on many of these theoretical constructs in which understanding and interpretation of ‘what is happening’ is outsourced and dominated/controlled/owned by an authoritative constructed reality. Where there is interpretation there is room for mistakes, and the model can never be actuality. In a slight-of-hand, our own sense-data is hustled off to a closet and ignored, replaced by these models (which are given the official stamp of approval, taught in schools, printed in books and online sources, etc.). But this cannot replace the fact that these eyes are actually seeing, these mechanoreceptors are actually touching, and so on. Any further explanation to this potentially apperceptive sensing remains interpretation, and frequently if not always leads away from what is actually happening as fact.

A few recent pictures from my area (Southeast Alaska):

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Henry: So anything that isn’t ‘absolute zero’ (which is supposed to be unreachable) is vibrating to some extent.

Hi Henry,

Very pretty images from Alaska.

Your above statement is based on the model of an atom with a supposed nucleus and electrons, positrons and neutrons swirling around the nucleus.

Henry: I know that what we call an ‘atom’ is a theoretical structure, but is the vibrating also only a model?

As an atom is a theoretical postulate, what supposedly happens within this postulate is also conjecture.

Prof. Sir Alfred Brian Pippard (1920-2008), Emeritus Professor of Physics, University of Cambridge, knighted in 1974, had this to say, something which is still as valid today as then –

‘It must be realised, however, that the world of experience and observation is not the world of electrons and nuclei. When a bright spot on a television screen is interpreted as the arrival of a stream of electrons, it is still only the bright spot that is perceived and not the electrons. The world of experience is described by the physicist in terms of visible objects, occupying definite positions at definite instants of time – in a word, the world of classical mechanics. When the atom is pictured as a nucleus surrounded by electrons, this picture is a necessary concession to human limitations; there is no sense in which one can say that, if only a good enough microscope were available, this picture would be revealed as genuine reality. It is not that such a microscope has not been made; it is actually impossible to make one that will reveal this detail’. [emphases added]. ~ (Prof. Sir Alfred Brian Pippard; ©1994; Encyclopaedia Britannica).

Henry: edit: I found this article which describes the first imaging of molecular vibration. In the article they describe that prior to this imaging, the vibrations had been theoretical:

“To date, molecular vibrations have been pictorially explained using wiggling balls and connecting springs to represent atoms and bonds, respectively. Now we can directly visualize how individual atoms vibrate within a molecule. The images we provide will appear in textbooks to help students better understand the concept of vibrational normal modes, which till now had been a theoretical concept.” (…) (Article, Scientists observe, image all-important molecular vibrations)

Henry: (…) But this cannot replace the fact that these eyes are actually seeing, these mechanoreceptors are actually touching, and so on. Any further explanation to this potentially apperceptive sensing remains interpretation, and frequently if not always leads away from what is actually happening as fact. (link)

“A mechanoreceptor, also called mechanoceptor, is a sensory receptor that responds to mechanical pressure or distortion. Mechanoreceptors are located on sensory neurons that convert mechanical pressure into electrical signals that, in animals, are sent to the central nervous system.” (Mechanoreceptor - Wikipedia)

Regarding mechanoreceptors actually touching – the word “touching” here describes to a mechanical device making contact, and not the sense of touch experienced by a sensate human being. Hence, I don’t know what you refer to when you say “mechanoreceptors are actually touching”.

What is called “mechanoreceptors” are in fact living sensory neurons being manipulated by mechanical pressure or distortion and this can in no way be called apperceptive sensing just because some mechanical pressure is involved. I also don’t know what you mean by “potentially apperceptive sensing”.

Apperception is a function of an identity-free consciousness, i.e. when you are being apperceptively aware, regardless of receiving mechanical pressure, or not. A mechanical device is neither sentient nor conscious let alone apperceptive.

Perhaps the definition of actualism might clarify it for you – “the theory that nothing is merely passive (now rare)” (Oxford Dictionary) – and the experience that nothing is merely passive.

Richard: Actualism is the direct experiencing of the meaningful, vibrant, dynamic, effervescent, sparkling, pulsating, amazing, marvellous, wondrous and magical happening that is this very physical universe in action. (Richard, List C, No. 3, 16 Mar 2000).

I only briefly looked into the article of AAU.edu and in the first paragraph it says:

“By focusing light down to the size of an atom, scientists at the University of California, Irvine have produced the first images of a molecule’s normal modes of vibration – the internal motions that drive the chemistry of all things, including the function of living cells.” (Research | Association of American Universities (AAU) featured-research-topics/scientists-observe-image-all-important-molecular).

Now, you cannot focus *“*light down to the size of an atom” nor produce images of molecules because atoms and molecules are not actual but mathematical postulates. As such the images they speak of are interpretations (quantum mathematics in quantum-language). When they say “a molecule’s normal modes of vibration” they refer to a postulate’s (molecule’s) mode of conjectured operation, in this case labelled “vibration”.

To quote again Emeritus Professor of Physics, Sir Alfred Brian Pippard –

“The process of transformation from a classical description to an equation of quantum mechanics, and from the solution of this equation to the probability that a specified experiment will yield a specified observation, is not to be thought of as a temporary expedient pending the development of a better theory. It is better to accept this process as a technique for predicting the observations that are likely to follow from an earlier set of observations. Whether electrons and nuclei have an objective existence in reality is a metaphysical question to which no definite answer can be given. There is, however, no doubt that to postulate their existence is, in the present state of physics, an inescapable necessity if a consistent theory is to be constructed to describe economically and exactly the enormous variety of observations on the behaviour of matter”. …
“The habitual use of the language of particles by physicists induces and reflects the conviction that, even if the particles elude direct observation, they are as real as any everyday object”. [emphases added]. ~ (Prof. Sir Alfred Brian Pippard; ©1994; Encyclopaedia Britannica).

(see Richard, Abditorium, Prof. Sir Alfred Brian Pippard). A list of related correspondence at the bottom of the page.

As such, I take all their discoveries and interpretations with a large dose of salt. When I became actually free, I lost any ability to believe as well as the ability to imagine.

You so rightly said above, in the part I elided –

Henry: Part of what is significant here is the demonstration that sense data is the supreme way to experience and interpret actuality. I have found that ‘my’ reality depends on many of these theoretical constructs in which understanding and interpretation of ‘what is happening’ is outsourced and dominated/ controlled/ owned by an authoritative constructed reality. Where there is interpretation there is room for mistakes, and the model can never be actuality. In a slight-of-hand, our own sense-data is hustled off to a closet and ignored, replaced by these models (which are given the official stamp of approval, taught in schools, printed in books and online sources, etc.).

It’s good to be fully aware that these theoretical constructs may well turn out to be an incorrect interpretation of what is actually happening, and because they are now ubiquitously in use, they can spawn a great deal of more theory, conjectures and imaginary conclusions merely based on mathematical equations and models thereof. While it describes the present models of reality, by their very nature of being theoretical constructs they can never be actual.

Richard: ‘History shows that a model can be found to be useful without it necessarily being correct … and such a model
is later discarded when another model can be found to correspond more accurately to the facts. (Richard, AF List, No. 30, 27 Feb 2002)

Cheers Vineeto

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Here I was referring to those neurons (the mechanoreceptors) being manipulated by the finger etc. touching, rather than any mechanical device.

The reference to ‘potentially apperceptive sensing’ was because with an actually free person, that signal is not being interpreted according to beliefs. Though I am realizing that that would perhaps require a fully free person.

Yes, this is the conclusion I came to as well.

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