Kuba: Hi Vineeto,
I see the trick now, and it’s not just this one particular trick but ‘my’ tricks altogether, which are there essentially as breaks to prevent motion, as motion means that ‘my’ territory is at stake.
Hi Kuba,
To forget any experiential evidence of actuality altogether from a PCE is quite common given the ubiquity of the human condition. What I understand your particular trick was to either absorb any experience of the actual world as ‘your’ territory or deny its relevance as a call to action, i.e. intent. Hence my question if it was perhaps a spiritual approach of chasing realisations, believing they would give ‘you’ value, virtue, credit, a “favourable place in a group” (23 Oct 2025) as tangible real-world achievement.
Kuba: It’s funny because I always thought I wanted an adventure, but this is a genuine adventure now and I wonder if I have the minerals for it.
I appreciate your honesty – fear is not an easy thing to admit to oneself, let alone in public. The word which feeling being ‘Vineeto’ had for such courage to be a pioneer in something entirely new to human consciousness was ‘mettle’.
Also, when I answered Sonya’s message I found your reference to Srinath’s ‘sandpit actualism’ where you said –
Kuba: I remember there was a time on this forum when the words pure intent were replaced with purity. That instead of establishing a connection to pure intent one would connect with purity. I went along with this which I now see as a bastardised version of what pure intent actually is. What I confirmed yesterday is that indeed connecting with “purity” is missing the very key aspect of the “genuinely occurring stream of benevolence and benignity”. I was blown away when I experienced it last night, it was sweet, it was irresistibly enticing, it was impossible not to care, it was something that could easily pull ‘me’ all the way to ‘my’ demise without a shred of resistance.
Whereas this whole “connecting to purity” I see more as something along the lines of allowing sensuousness. Because when sensuousness is happening there is very much this aspect of the world being like this perfect and pure jewel, and yet that is not pure intent – "a genuinely occurring stream of benevolence and benignity that originates in the perfect and vast stillness that is the essential character of the infinitude of the universe”.
Before the qualitative shift took place last year it would be more correct to say that I was allowing purity over and over, I was not allowing pure intent over and over, I was not allowing the “genuinely occurring stream of benevolence and benignity that originates in the perfect and vast stillness that is the essential character of the infinitude of the universe” to be dynamically operative – certainly what I experienced last night, I was not allowing that over and over. (7 June 2025)
Just make sure that what you experienced as the “mirificent flavour” is indeed pure intent, the “genuinely occurring stream of benevolence and benignity” and not the previous “connecting to purity”. Is it something which is “irresistibly enticing, it was impossible not to care, it was something that could easily pull ‘me’ all the way to ‘my’ demise without a shred of resistance”?
It is this, the genuine experience of pure intent, which provides the mettle to proceed.
Richard had several conversations with Alan on the topic of fear and courage, here are the last paragraphs of one of them –
Alan: So, of course, it was ‘natural’ for people to say they had a ‘vision of god’, or some such – and back we are to ‘terms of reference’. The point I am making is that when someone had a PCE, even if it did not degenerate into an ASC, both their report, and that of others, would be of a religious, or spiritual experience. However, that does not, at least wholly, explain the fact that you appear to be the only living example of what you call ‘actual freedom’.
Richard: Once again: Why Richard? One reason lies in my personal history where, being in a war, my life became a living nightmare … literally. I was trapped in an horrific world of dread and foreboding and in order to escape from the savage barbarity of the situation my mind somehow created a new ‘reality’ built out of the extremities of fear, which hallucination I would call ‘unreality’. Thus I escaped into a place where all is calm and peaceful that was not unlike being in the centre of a cyclone – all about rages fear and hatred, anger and aggression – but in there all was apparently calm and peaceful.
Thus I knew from experience that it is possible to create an ‘unreality’ in order to escape the grim and glum real-world reality. 26 years later I came to realise that the ‘Greater Reality’ was nothing but an escape – the mystical realm is a culturally revered hallucination – and that completion was already here … and had always been. (There are three world’s altogether … the natural reality that 6.0 billion people live in and the super-natural Reality that .000001 of the population live in … and this actual world. I call it actual because it is the world of this body and its sense organs only … and nary a god or goddess to be found. This is because I left my ‘self’ behind in the ‘real world’ … where it belongs). I would not – and could not – live a lie. [Emphasis added]. (Richard, AF List, Alan, 12 Jan 1999)
Kuba: It’s not that the motion is painful or anything like that, it’s a wonderful adventure but it’s actually happening … I don’t have a word for it because it’s not scary and yet it’s as if the hairs on my neck are standing up.
Thrill perhaps? Or this other word? –
Richard: Incidentally, here is perhaps the ‘fear of/ aversion to’ which would be most applicable to a would-be actualist:
• metathesiophobia: fear of changes. (Richard, AF List, No. 79, 10 Feb 2005)
Kuba: It seems that each time ‘I’ dare to give up some of ‘my’ territory there is the initial resistance etc and then once it goes there is a greater scope of enjoyment and appreciation available and then again ‘I’ put up a barrier a little lower down and play the same game over again. The tricks seem to come in to play in particular when there is that potential of the next bit of ‘my’ territory being given up. (link)
Again, once you establish the experiential connection to pure intent, the “genuinely occurring stream of benevolence and benignity” which blew you away, the initial resistance will melt away.
Richard: The key to success lies in realising that fear does not go anywhere (meaning that nothing ever happens except more fear). (Richard, List AF, No. 79, 21 June 2005)
Kuba: It’s funny because I always thought I wanted an adventure, but this is a genuine adventure now and I wonder if I have the minerals for it.
Kuba: Ha of course I do! It’s already happening, the dare was to allow enjoyment and appreciation into those outlines of ‘me’ which ‘I’ have been protecting, instinctually so. Those outlines are now permeated, with enjoyment and appreciation bubbling through.
Richard: In short: if it be not either easy (effortless) or fun (enjoyable) then there is something to look at until it is again
Ah, this is what was missing and what might well be responsible for your previously reoccurring “evening gloom” and “morning resentment” (link). You explained them theoretically to yourself but that did nothing to disperse them.
Kuba: The “something to look at” is that thing / anything which is preventing my enjoyment and appreciation of this (my only) moment of being alive. Funnily enough it is ‘my’ actualist identity that often gets serious and therefore prevents the very enjoyment and appreciation it is apparently meant to facilitate – cunning indeed!
Yes, the identity is always very serious – ‘you’ feel that ‘my survival is at stake’. Hence my repeated suggestion to put everything on a preference basis to shift the balance.
Richard: … the human species has been doing its thing for at least 50,000 years or so – no essential difference has been discerned between the Cro-Magnon human and Modern-Day human – and may very well continue to do its thing for, say, another 50,000 years or so … it matters not, in what has been described as ‘the vast scheme of things’ or ‘the big picture’, and so on, whether none, one or many peoples become actually free from the human condition (this planet, indeed the entire solar system, is going to cease to exist in its current form about 4.5 billion years from now). All these words – yours, mine, and others (all the dictionaries, encyclopaedias, scholarly tomes and so on) – will perish and all the monuments, all the statues, all the tombstones, all the sacred sites, all the carefully conserved/ carefully restored memorabilia, will vanish as if they had never existed … nothing will remain of any human endeavour (including yours truly). Nothing at all … nil, zero, zilch. Which means that nothing really matters in the long run and, as nothing really does matter (in this ultimate sense) it is simply not possible to take life seriously … sincerely, yes, but seriously? No way … life is much too much fun to be serious! (Richard, List AF, No. 25h, 24 Dec 2004).
Kuba: So Vineeto, I can see perhaps where sincerity can be located, you know it has been quite intense talking with you, my guess is you have had a great time behind the keyboard but for ‘me’ it has been rather serious. But on the other hand, ‘I’ could have had the sense of humour and the sincerity to enjoy finding the various tricks that ‘I’ might be playing. But both the sense of humour and the sincerity would require that ‘I’ see and accept that ‘I’ am as mad and as bad as everyone else and hence there is no sense in shame and embarrassment. Without this crucial acknowledgment there is no possibility for naiveté to eventually flourish, sincerity is required first. I am perhaps seeing like a seed of genuine sincerity now, which comes from the acknowledgement that the human condition is common to all.
I am well aware that “it has been quite intense talking with you” and I sometimes wondered if I said more than you were willing to hear. But when you said that “I am now in a similar if not the same place to where I was when you began writing on the forum” (link), which was July last year, I intended to discover, with you, how you can find the reason and counter the tendency of moving in ineffective circles. When you replied to each of my messages I took it that you were equally interested despite the intensity.
Now that you (according to your next post) have sincerely acknowledged that you are “as mad and as bad as everyone else” – does this make it somewhat easier and more fun?
Kuba: The above has washed over ‘me’ thoroughly and big time, ‘I’ can’t quite put into words the extent of the change in perspective although I understand a little more now what is meant by the words fellowship regard. Actually Sonya’s recent post was quite well timed, when I saw it I thought “let’s see what stands of that sincerity now”, because it is the case that whatever impression she gleaned from me would have been misleading, however it was the best I knew to do at the time, just like it is so for all the other fellow human beings trapped within the human condition.
Sonya’s post is indeed significant as she explains how one proceeds with sincerity and naiveté, and any fear to give up ‘my’ territory hardly plays a part. What is even more important is the fact that’s it’s easy and increases confidence and fun to proceed –
Sonya: It is amazing how simply noticing, coupled with the intent to be happy and harmless can lead to such change. I can say now I’ve reaped quite a few benefits from this. (link)
Something Richard wrote in his journal might be worth remembering –
Richard: It is, of course, a bold step to forsake lofty thoughts, profound feelings and psychic adumbrations and enter the actuality of life as a sensate experience. [Emphasis added]. (Richard’s Journal, Foreword, p. 15)
Kuba: And in the absence of shame and embarrassment I experience such a deep appreciation for what human beings are and for the fact that there is now a way to eradicate the human condition, and also for what has been done towards that end so far. And it is the absence of shame and embarrassment which allows for the human condition itself to be squarely addressed.
This is definitely one to put a huge circle around and do everything for this seed of sincerity to flourish, and indeed this is my intent. (link)
Yes, and not as a concept or theoretical thought but as action, taking one small step to sincerely start paying attention how you can be more happy and more harmless. It has the beneficial side-effect that you become more confident in the doing of it – success breeds success.
Richard: You need to have a keen sense of humour. This business of becoming free is not – contrary to popular opinion – a serious business at all. Be totally sincere … most definitely utterly sincere, as genuineness is essential. But serious … no way. An actual freedom is all about having fun; about enjoying being here now; about delighting in being alive. All that “being serious” stuff actively works against peace-on-earth. One has to want to be here on this planet … (Richard, This Moment of Being Alive)
Pat yourself on the back for all the uncovering and discovering you have done which clears the way forward. The human condition is weird and sometimes it’s weird to get out of it.
Cheers Vineeto