[Richard]
I have experienced this sensation a few times during/following PCEs, in that sense it is now ‘familiar’! As well as indicating movement in the right direction.
I am well pleased.
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Hi Henry,
I’m consistently so delighted and appreciative of how much success various forum members are having with navigating various issues. It really is so different from the years ago on the Yahoo! group!
I particularly enjoyed this part:
This gets precisely to the heart of the matter, of what ‘groupthink’ is. When you realize you can’t sensibly and sincerely discuss various facts and happenings in the world, with an eye as to what is actually happening rather than what is believed to be happening… that’s when you really see how perfidious and all-encompassing it can be!
I just wanted to advise that, although here we are discussing the groupthink that those of a sinistral persuasion tend to have, and those of a dextral persuasion are the opposition to such – the latter does not automatically constitute a sensibility-based approach. In other words there is groupthink of the dextral persuasion as well and it suffers the same fundamental pitfalls.
As Vineeto wrote, “Those “devious elements” […] are *in all human beings* as a result of the instinctual passions” and they “are present on *both sides* of the political divide”.
That being said, there are also those of a medial persuasion as well as of a… let’s say neuteral persuasion, and they suffer from the same instinctual passions as well, of course. So the answer is not to be found here, either. What Vineeto wrote still applies, “The evolution of the human condition itself can only happen via a virtual freedom, and dissolution via an actual freedom.”
(I presume this explains why Richard has made it crystal-clear that he is apolitical[1].)
In any case, the only satisfying thing I have found is to, with as much sincerity as I can muster, find what the actual facts are on any topic. This can take a lot of digging and effort, but is well-worth it in the end. Thus one naturally ends up not on any particular side of the political spectrum per se, but rather in appreciation of what is sensible in terms of what the purpose of any organization (political or otherwise) set up to be of benefit to the people it was created for the benefit of ought to be, namely, the benefit of those very actual individual flesh-and-blood bodies in and of themselves.
I also only recently came to appreciate how, even the most rabid believer of a political ideology, what lies ‘behind’ or ‘underneath’ their beliefs or worldview is actually a fellow human being, a fellow flesh and blood body! This helps to explain how Richard can say “I like my fellow human being *irregardless of whatever mischief they get up to***” [source].
I wouldn’t be able to quantify it, but some people are more conducive to having sensible conversations than other, one-on-one tends to work best (as it is less likely to trigger a group-vibe reaction) although in groups it can work sometimes too, and everyone differs in terms of what topics they can discuss without getting triggered into silliness. So although it may be dangerous to discuss these things with ‘your’ “tribe”, it may nevertheless be safe to do so with individual fellow human beings. However I would urge caution!
Cheers,
Claudiu
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I just watched a youtube video about this effect, I suspect it is because all group members know the other group members are watching and thus are ‘on edge’ and thus even less likely to consider challenges to their beliefs than usual.
Yes I initially typed out that I wasn’t sure how I would operate in the world in this new paradigm, but I will find out.
It’s so much more interesting to engage in this than the alternative, and not having the social fear means that fascination can come to the fore.
Also thank you @Kub933 for your recent reminder to look for thrill, it was instrumental yesterday.
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Vineeto: They also inflicted a world-wide plague on Western and other countries
Henry: Vineeto, I was wondering if you could tell me more about this or point me to someplace I could read more? (link)
Hi Henry,
I appreciate that you are looking for ways to find out the facts for yourself. It has been a while since Richard and I watched current affairs and documentaries of investigative journalists and I am unable to give you the sources and many have disappeared.
My overall information was that US grants for “gain of function research”, i.e. make a specific virus (corona=influenza virus) more transmissible and more dangerous in order to study it for a remedial cure, was halted by Obama (around 2014) and skilfully (deceitfully) transferred to the Woohan laboratory, from where it most likely escaped into the wild. This was investigated by several journalists and doctors but their reports were heavily censored for political reasons. One of the main movers of this fraudulent action was Dr. Fauci, who had investments of his own in vaccine-developments.
I found his (Dr. Vinay Prasad’s) report very informative when I watched it yesterday –
Claudiu: One doctor’s expert opinion about this pause is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhxKEgGA13w
Another link I found very informative at the time of the Covid ‘crisis’ – Michael Yeadon, Former Vice President and Chief Scientist of Pfizer (till 2011) – now most of his information has been deleted or discredited as ‘’misinformation” (https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/) and (Michael Yeadon - Wikipedia). At the time he reported what had been happening inside Pfizer.
You may also find something informative here to start your own research – https://tuckercarlson.com/
There was a lot more, and once you start looking you will find other suggested links, and then have to use your own inquisitiveness and sensibleness to decide if they are useful/informative or propaganda. I often simply put all I hear on the backburner until more confirmation or rational debunking happens. It is still not easy to form a coherent idea/ opinion as so much information is distorted and suppressed by those benefitting most from the Covid and ‘vaccine’ scam. It is still shocking and remarkable to discover how wide-spread and rotten the actions by those ensnared by money and power can be.
Claudiu may be able to help you with more current sources.
Claudiu: Withdraw from the World Health Organization (with an explicitly stated reason due to its “mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic”) and temporarily pause medical grant reviews by the US’s National Institutes of Health, both of which contributed to the severity and impact of the worldwide pandemic (link).
Cheers Vineeto
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Vineeto: What exact events are you referring to when you say “misdeeds and tragedies”, “abominations”, which you do not want to sweep “under the rug”? Just curious.
Henry: Primarily the genocides (link)
Ha, you are not talking by chance of the so-called genocide of the Palestinians, are you?
Those darlings of the bleeding-heart denizens who blindly come to the rescue of those who cry ‘foul’ the loudest but are nevertheless fervently interested in keeping the conflict going as long as it benefits them?
If this is the “genocide” you are referring to, then a thorough research into the history of the conflict between the two feuding groups is called for, and it is again not easy to ascertain the historical facts as each party is having their own heavily biased narrative.
I wouldn’t want to be an arbiter but fortunately I don’t have to be. The only fact which I could determine was that, given the state of Israel was created where it was by the winners of the Second World War, the inhabitants of this nation have as much a right to exist and prosper as their opponents do, yet it is their opponents who want to fully and permanently drive them out from where they live and have vowed for decades to extirpate all of their inhabitants. With such deep and long-lasting indoctrinated hate any peaceful solution is presently impossible until they manage to get themselves a different leadership and create an opportunity for a new generation of a different, less violently inclined, more tolerant, more informed and more intelligent people.
Douglas Murray (link) gives quite a reasoned, fact-based, less passionate than usual account for one side of the present conflict. I haven’t found a non-passionate appeal for the other side – that is up to you to find.
Let me know if you were referring to other “genocides”.
Cheers Vineeto
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No, I agree with your assessment of Palestine.
I was thinking in a somewhat general (ha!) sense of other past genocides, with the Nazi genocide of ww2 foremost on my mind.
It’s apparent as I say this that it’s a weak spot that I don’t know much about most of these, but the larger point of wishing to avoid future events like these stands.
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Henry: No, I agree with your assessment of Palestine.
I was thinking in a somewhat general (ha!) sense of other past genocides, with the Nazi genocide of ww2 foremost on my mind. [Wikipedia, List of Genocides]
It’s apparent as I say this that it’s a weak spot that I don’t know much about most of these, but the larger point of wishing to avoid future events like these stands. (link)
Hi Henry,
A few days ago I came across a link on YouTube with a 20-year old video interview with Ted L. Gunderson, and ex-Fbi investigator who gave astounding facts involving a secret world-wide association called “The Illuminati”, operating for more than 300 years – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyrgVeKI67M. It appeared as valid today as 20 years ago.
For me personally, neither belief nor disbelief operate but there were enough facts and common sense in this interview to take notice so I figured it might assist you and others to a certain degree to make sense of what is happening in the real world at large, and can perhaps give you a basis for collecting more facts and overall understanding.
Cheers Vineeto
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The funny thing with this is that there is no ‘taking over the world.’ The power is imaginary, the ownership is imaginary. So all there is is violence and imposed economic suffering, all for nothing
Vineeto: A few days ago I came across a link on YouTube with a 20-year old video interview with Ted L. Gunderson, and ex-Fbi investigator who gave astounding facts involving a secret world-wide association called “The Illuminati”, operating for more than 300 years – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyrgVeKI67M 5. It appeared as valid today as 20 years ago.
For me personally, neither belief nor disbelief operate but there were enough facts and common sense in this interview to take notice so I figured it might assist you and others to a certain degree to make sense of what is happening in the real world at large, and can perhaps give you a basis for collecting more facts and overall understanding. (link)
Henry: The funny thing with this is that there is no ‘taking over the world.’ The power is imaginary, the ownership is imaginary. So all there is, is violence and imposed economic suffering, all for nothing. (link)
Hi Henry,
I am rather gob-smacked by your absolute statements.
Are you stating facts – and if yes, what is the evidence? Or are you stating an opinion – if yes, what is your reasoning to have come to such a (possibly considered) opinion?
You also say “there is […] imposed economic suffering” – what forces have the power to “impose” such “economic suffering” if “the power is imaginary” and “the ownership is imaginary”?
After all, we are discussing how to uncover one’s beliefs which constitute the social identity and the entire peasant mentality.
Cheers Vineeto
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Hi Vineeto,
It seems I failed to draw a mental demarcation between how things operate in the actual world and the real world.
Of course everyone except the few free people are influenced by that power.
I was surprised when I looked for an answer and saw that I had overlooked that. In overlooking, I have also overlooked the influence of such forces on myself (as well as exerted by myself). It’s as though I have taken on the non-existence of power as a belief, despite being still influenced by it myself.
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Last night I went to a rock show with the intent of watching myself closely. I experienced the usual waves of anxiety with being in public and interacting with a lot of people, but was able to keep my hands in my pockets. After awhile, I realized that I was telling all sorts of stories about what was happening between people, and between myself and them. I really believed the stories, but when I looked closer I realized that they weren’t founded in anything concrete. It’s like I was playing ‘house’ with imaginary dolls in real-time.
Around the same time I realized that I was quite hungry and tired of standing at the show, so I left early. As I left, I could see very starkly that there was nothing ultimately better about being at the show as compared to anywhere else. I remember thinking that it was like I was looking at the actual ‘star-dust’ that everything is made of, rather than building out a narrative based on relative values. There was a solidity and purity to everything.
I’m feeling quite encouraged by this experience. Thank you @Vineeto for challenging me on these things.
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Henry: The funny thing with this is that there is no ‘taking over the world.’ The power is imaginary, the ownership is imaginary. So all there is, is violence and imposed economic suffering, all for nothing. (link)
Vineeto: Are you stating facts – and if yes, what is the evidence? Or are you stating an opinion – if yes, what is your reasoning to have come to such a (possibly considered) opinion?
You also say “there is […] imposed economic suffering” – what forces have the power to “impose” such “economic suffering” if “the power is imaginary” and “the ownership is imaginary”?
After all, we are discussing how to uncover one’s beliefs which constitute the social identity and the entire peasant mentality. (link)
Henry: It seems I failed to draw a mental demarcation between how things operate in the actual world and the real world.
Of course everyone except the few free people are influenced by that power.
I was surprised when I looked for an answer and saw that I had overlooked that. In overlooking, I have also overlooked the influence of such forces on myself (as well as exerted by myself). It’s as though I have taken on the non-existence of power as a belief, despite being still influenced by it myself.
Hi Henry,
This is fascinating.
So you used others’ descriptions of the actual world to ‘determine’ that “power is imaginary”. Even though it is a fact that there is no power in the actual world, nevertheless power of coercion, both material and psychic, is very, very real in the real world where 8+ billion people live.
Well spotted when you recognized that “I have taken on the non-existence of power as a belief”.
For good measure you added “the ownership is imaginary”, which phrase is nowhere to be found in Richard’s description of the actual world. Even actually free people need to own basic necessities of life, purchase and maintain them, unless one wants to live naked in the forest without even a tool to hunt for food.
I think there is more for you to discover why you failed “to draw a mental demarcation between how things operate in the actual world and the real world” and were “overlooking” the distinction. As you have no direct experience “how things operate in the actual world” except perhaps for a memory of your PCE. Were you perchance using this technique of taking this as a belief so as to not be viscerally moved by the content of the video, i.e. keep it at arm’s length?
What happens if you watch it again, this time allowing the possibility that engineering of misery on a grand scale may well be happening? It’s certainly worthwhile exploring how the real world operates for your own benefit – else you will be using actualism as a dogma and a theoretical belief-system to ensure ‘you’ to remain the way you are.
Henry: Last night I went to a rock show with the intent of watching myself closely. […] As I left, I could see very starkly that there was nothing ultimately better about being at the show as compared to anywhere else. I remember thinking that it was like I was looking at the actual ‘star-dust’ that everything is made of, rather than building out a narrative based on relative values. There was a solidity and purity to everything. I’m feeling quite encouraged by this experience.
It sounds like a wonderful experience, even though the expression “actual ‘star-dust’” had me puzzled for a while.
Henry: Thank you Vineeto for challenging me on these things. (link)
You are very welcome. I appreciate you enjoy looking into and communicate about these matters.
Cheers Vineeto
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I was drawing that concept partly from my own past realizations regarding ownership which align with this quote which is referenced in the social identity / peasant mentality article:
RICHARD: Sure … something [No. 32] recently posted is worth bearing in mind whilst you do so.
Viz.:
• [Respondent No. 32 ]: ‘The cherry on the top came yesterday – whilst watching television and having these thoughts running at the back of my head, all of a sudden it struck me, that not only is this earth a ‘free-range’ place in actuality but the entire universe is like this – that there is in actuality no ownership of anyone/ anything over anyone/ anything else – everything in this universe is literally free – as in, has no ownership…all ownership exists in the head in the ‘real’ world’. (Message № 195xx).
Although I will be commenting more fully when I respond to that email, in its chronological order, suffice is it to say for now that when the identity inhabiting this flesh-and-blood body circa 1978-79 entered into a mortgage agreement for the purchase of a property – an ex-farmhouse on a couple of acres of land in the rural south-east of Australia – the question of ownership of the very earth beneath ‘his’ feet engaged ‘his’ attention to such a degree as to dynamically effect resolution somewhat along the above lines.
What ‘he’ had really purchased, ‘he’ realised, via that state-sanctioned organ called a ‘mortgage’, was the state-ordained right to exclusive use (within certain state-defined parameters) of that state-controlled land – specifically the legal right to call upon state-remunerated armed guards (state-trained personnel with state-issued guns on their hips) to enforce the state-determined ‘no trespassing’ law which applies to such state-issued ‘fee simple’ (a.k.a. ‘freehold’) titles – and that no land anywhere on earth was, or could ever be, owned by anyone at all.
Least of all by a ‘state’ (a legal fiction masquerading as a ‘body’).
Yes practically speaking one must own accoutrements in order to function, it still remains that the ownership really consists of the legal recourse of protection should someone else wish to make off with whatever item.
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I didn’t get into this in my previous post but yes that is exactly the character of the realizations I was having.
Basically in an identity-centric bid to be an actualist (and thus gain some imaginary brownie points), I was taking on the dissociative belief that all was already perfect and that power didn’t exist. As a result I found myself frequently unsympathetic/uncharitable with anyone in suffering or in the grips of various human machinations.
One of the effects of this has been that the most important element of inspiration to become free, eg the passionately felt desire to end the child abuses, murders, suicides, tortures etc etc was essentially rendered toothless in a numbed-out psyche. I see this as monstrous actually now.
Beyond the specifics of who or what (eg, illuminati or no), this is a fact. There are powerful individuals & groups actively engineering suffering at grand scale(s) for their own benefit. For the first time in a long time, I find myself deeply disturbed & stirred by this. It’s obvious as well that the only thing to do about it is to become free, and it’s obvious the connection to enjoying & appreciating to facilitate that. All that is left is to do that.
For a long time I have been trying to figure out why I couldn’t seem to get my motivation going properly toward becoming free, and it seems I finally have the answer. I can hardly believe that it has finally happened, and I could not have predicted the sequence of events or psychological/attitudinal shifts that were involved to get here.
It also makes evident a lack of solidity when it comes to my identity or any identity. I could only uphold that identity via those specific beliefs & feeling-associations. Only a few targeted beliefs was enough to topple an entire wing of ‘me,’ with seemingly more to follow.
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Yes I don’t think it fits well either, but I didn’t know how else to describe it… I was and am astounded by the physicality of everything that exists (and that is all that exists).
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Also to be clear I’m not wanting to say one way or another at present, as primarily I’m recognizing that I have no idea and that a considerable amount of research is ahead of me before any picture comes into focus. It’s apparent that 90% of my worldview has consisted of readily-imbibed beliefs handed to me. I find that quite painful but I’m reminding myself to be gentle with myself haha
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Vineeto: For good measure you added “the ownership is imaginary”, …
Henry: I was drawing that concept partly from my own past realizations regarding ownership which align with this quote which is referenced in the social identity / peasant mentality article: (Richard, List D, No. 38, 31 May 2015)
Yes practically speaking one must own accoutrements in order to function, it still remains that the ownership really consists of the legal recourse of protection should someone else wish to make off with whatever item. (link)
Hi Henry,
Thank you for the reply and the informative links. Looking at your all-encompassing description I thought it needed more detailing, but you found where Richard has already done it. I fully agree with your expanded explanation. A virtually free society would need no such legal protection but that seems still a long way off.
Vineeto: Were you perchance using this technique of taking this as a belief so as to not be viscerally moved by the content of the video, i.e. keep it at arm’s length?
What happens if you watch it again, this time allowing the possibility that engineering of misery on a grand scale may well be happening? It’s certainly worthwhile exploring how the real world operates for your own benefit – else you will be using actualism as a dogma and a theoretical belief-system to ensure ‘you’ to remain the way you are.
Henry: I didn’t get into this in my previous post but yes that is exactly the character of the realizations I was having.
Basically in an identity-centric bid to be an actualist (and thus gain some imaginary brownie points), I was taking on the dissociative belief that all was already perfect and that power didn’t exist. As a result I found myself frequently unsympathetic/ uncharitable with anyone in suffering or in the grips of various human machinations.
“Imaginary brownie points” is one reason but going by ‘Vineeto’s’ experience, keeping the impact of the wide-spread, for ‘her’ unbearable, misery of countless humans at bay was the main reason ‘she’ kept such acknowledgement and its visceral impact at arm’s length. ‘She’ was only able to feel sympathy and caring when actualism provided a genuine solution, not only for ‘her’ but for everyone.
Whenever being an ‘actualist’ makes you cool and/or callous then this ‘actualist’ identity is certainly leading you in the wrong direction (one of the main trick of ‘me’ to sabotage any change) –
Richard: “Often people who do not read what I have to say with both eyes gain the impression that I am suggesting that people are to stop feeling … which I am not. My whole point is to cease ‘being’ …” (Richard, Articles, A Precis of Actual Freedom)
Henry: One of the effects of this has been that the most important element of inspiration to become free, e.g. the passionately felt desire to end the child abuses, murders, suicides, tortures etc etc was essentially rendered toothless in a numbed-out psyche. I see this as monstrous actually now.
Indeed, it is monstrous. You cannot become actually free only for your own sake – it will remain still-born, just as “without naiveté – the nearest a ‘self’ can get to innocence whilst remaining a ‘self’ – pure intent will remain still-born”. (link)
Henry: Beyond the specifics of who or what (e.g., illuminati or no), this is a fact. There are powerful individuals & groups actively engineering suffering at grand scale(s) for their own benefit. For the first time in a long time, I find myself deeply disturbed & stirred by this. It’s obvious as well that the only thing to do about it is to become free, and it’s obvious the connection to enjoying & appreciating to facilitate that. All that is left is to do that.
Ha, “all that is left is to do that”, as you are presently finding out, includes investigating one’s social identity and the multifaceted peasant mentality.
Addendum re: illuminati or no: Also to be clear I’m not wanting to say one way or another at present, as primarily I’m recognizing that I have no idea and that a considerable amount of research is ahead of me before any picture comes into focus.
Personally, I still keep my own counsel as to what name they go by or how they are organized. It’s enough to know that a large group of people secretly but quite obviously have nefarious and Malthusian aims, plans and plenty of means, ways and power to be quite successful at present. As an uninformed and gullible citizen ‘I’ used to wonder why there were so many wars when apparently none of the ordinary people really wanted to go to war. It took a long time to find out why.
Henry: It’s apparent that 90% of my worldview has consisted of readily-imbibed beliefs handed to me. I find that quite painful but I’m reminding myself to be gentle with myself haha. (link)
I perfectly understand, and it can be quite an embarrassing shock that one has been such a fool to swallow the dominant worldview hook, line and sinker (and any worldview for that matter). You can make good use of this embarrassment to allow your hidden-away-during-puberty childhood naïveté come to the fore. Then you can discard seriousness and have fun with your discoveries how you tick. As Ian put it – “The final identity…I am fun.” (link)
Henry: For a long time I have been trying to figure out why I couldn’t seem to get my motivation going properly toward becoming free, and it seems I finally have the answer. I can hardly believe that it has finally happened, and I could not have predicted the sequence of events or psychological/ attitudinal shifts that were involved to get here.
It also makes evident a lack of solidity when it comes to my identity or any identity. I could only uphold that identity via those specific beliefs & feeling-associations. Only a few targeted beliefs was enough to topple an entire wing of ‘me,’ with seemingly more to follow.
I am very pleased about what you have already uncovered. It is wonderful to see how you find out more and more and gain more motivation in the process.
Vineeto: It sounds like a wonderful experience, even though the expression “actual ‘star-dust’” had me puzzled for a while.
Henry: Yes I don’t think it fits well either, but I didn’t know how else to describe it… I was and am astounded by the physicality of everything that exists (and that is all that exists). (link)
Yes, ‘star-dust’ reminds me more of birthday party glitter than how I would describe my experience of being here in this actual world. I do better understand now what you meant and am delighted about your experience of “the physicality of everything that exists (and that is all that exists)”.
Enjoy.
Cheers Vineeto
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I quite like the star-dust imagery. We are all literally made up of matter, the same matter that constitutes the planets and the stars themselves. The Earth is understood to have formed from the very same matter that formed the Sun itself — gaseous swirls of matter (as seen in nebulae) condensing into varying forms of stars, small planets, gas giants, etc.
As such we are all literally made of star-dust, the very essence that constitutes our sun is also what constitutes our flesh and blood bodies and all that we imbibe to sustain life!
Perhaps this fuller explication helps to convey the appreciation I have for the term and its expressive potency!
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It’s quite revealing what the newly-formed Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has uncovered with respect to the monetary aspect of this.
The US spends about 6 trillion dollars a year for all its expenditures. The US treasury is responsible for approving money transfers when the money is actually sent.
They discovered that the last officials responsible for this never rejected a single payment transaction in their entire time of office — even if the recipient was designated as a known terrorist group!
The executive branch has also issued a pause to all foreign aid coming out of the USAID office. Over a trillion of dollars worth of grants are affected. Only about 10% actually end up going to actual beneficiaries of the aid. Where does all the rest go?
Untold sums of money are funneled into so-called Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs). What an oxymoron as they are funded by governments themselves!
These are staffed by people, some of whose entire careers consist entirely of working for various NGOs. Their very livelihood depends on it, in other words. These NGOs collectively sponsor what could be termed as a ‘globalist’ agenda. They in turn donate much of what they receive back to the very politicians that approve the grants that fund them.
It’s a brilliant money-laundering scheme effectively stealing trillions from American tax-payers and funneling it to these career parasites (an apt term, as they don’t produce anything of value and live on these funds) with kickbacks to the politicians that ought to be supporting the tax-payers.
Although there may be a few large key players that actually set the agenda, I am not sure if there’s really an actual shadowy cabal of people working in concert to do this. I could see it being a psychic chimera that exists only in the human psyche which swirls and sworls and now has a life of its own. Some may call it a demon — of course it would not be any corporal demon but as a psychic phenomenon one could call it that. In more prosaic terms, the apparent collective thrust in one anti-human political direction may very well be an emergent phenomenon, fueled by instinctual passions, rather than one orchestrated by a small elite. This is only supposition on my part but the latter is a more plausible explanation to me currently.
In any case, as DOGE and the executive grant has just cut off their funding at the root, expect a massive backlash and reaction from the tens and perhaps hundreds of thousands of people whose livelihoods are now at stake. They have nothing to lose and will certainly fight back!
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Vineeto to Henry: Personally, I still keep my own counsel as to what name they go by or how they are organized. It’s enough to know that a large group of people secretly but quite obviously have nefarious and Malthusian aims, plans and plenty of means, ways and power to be quite successful at present.
Claudiu: Although there may be a few large key players that actually set the agenda, I am not sure if there’s really an actual shadowy cabal of people working in concert to do this. I could see it being a psychic chimera that exists only in the human psyche which swirls and sworls and now has a life of its own. Some may call it a demon — of course it would not be any corporal demon but as a psychic phenomenon one could call it that. In more prosaic terms, the apparent collective thrust in one anti-human political direction may very well be an emergent phenomenon, fuelled by instinctual passions, rather than one orchestrated by a small elite. This is only supposition on my part but the latter is a more plausible explanation to me currently.
Hi Claudiu,
It seems pointless to work out which opinion is more in line with facts as there are very few confirmed facts available, given the ‘cabal’s’ secret nature. The effects and extent of their actions demonstrably cover a wide range, such as dominant influence in international governments, and government departments such as military, federal police, national security, education and judiciary, as well as banking, certain influential industries and main media, to name but a few. The World Economic Forum itself appears to have similarly stated dictatorial aims (“you vill own nothing and vill be happy!” (link)).
With the extent of misinformation, disinformation, and scare-tactics it is hard to find out what is factually going on. If it is a “small elite” or a large affiliation does not really matter – even a small ‘virus’, via ‘gain of function’, can spread worldwide, and given the passionate nature of the psychic “swirls and sworls”, it is easy to make frequent and effective use of the instinctual passions as a strategy to pit one group of peasants against another to divert attention from the puppet masters.
In the final analysis, those vitally interested to be actually free from the human condition only need to be informed and investigative enough to discover and discard their own loyalty and belonging, their attitudes, affiliations, values, principles and finally the tendency and capacity to believing itself, in other words, be able to free themselves of the trappings of their own peasant mentality and social identity.
With sincerity and naiveté this can be a fun activity, when one discovers one’s dignity and autonomy, as one bond of belonging and loyalty to one group or another dissolves in the thrilling revelation that they are not only unnecessary but in fact detrimental to ongoing felicity and genuine caring.
Claudiu: In any case, as DOGE and the executive grant has just cut off their funding at the root, expect a massive backlash and reaction from the tens and perhaps hundreds of thousands of people whose livelihoods are now at stake. They have nothing to lose and will certainly fight back! (link)
Thank you for your detailed and very informative report. It is fascinating to read about the extensive current action of “DOGE” to restrict the massive wasteful spending of funds that can be so much more beneficially applied elsewhere.
Cheers Vineeto
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I did watch the video which you posted and found it very interesting to contemplate just how far this peasant mentality stretches. Could it be that the “set up” now is essentially the same set up as back in those days of the warlords and the peasants. And if this is the case then is it that the structures in place and the values which enforce them are specifically designed to perpetuate this very set up. And if so then is believing itself a core function of this peasant mentality, a psychological means of control. I remember a correspondence on the AFT where Richard kept mentioning something like “this will make more sense once you see what money actually is”. I could never quite get this, because I always believed that money was a currency that was more efficient at trade vs trading physical goods.
But yesterday I started wondering, is “what money actually is” one of the tools that can be used to enforce (in disguise) what is essentially modern day serfdom? That for those warlords money would be an extremely effective tool to keep the peasantry working away for merely crumbs without realising just what is going on. After all if I was to hand over a weeks worth of grain for a few crumbs of bread I could not help but see the blatant exploitation, perhaps eventually leading to a revolt by the peasant masses.
Instead this game of exploitation can be acted out with the peasants approval, the exploitation can happen in disguise and take the form of wages - where crumbs are still being delivered in exchange for the labour provided. Once this system is accepted as normal then many ‘improvements’ within this exploitative system can be achieved by the peasants, creating the illusion that they are actually being benefited. Where it seems to really get weird is that the values which eventually spring up from this system are designed to perpetuate the exploitation and yet the peasants learn to love and fight for… To even die for those very values, to sacrifice themselves and others for ‘freedom’ or for equality etc.
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Kuba: I remember a correspondence on the AFT where Richard kept mentioning something like “this will make more sense once you see what money actually is”. I could never quite get this, because I always believed that money was a currency that was more efficient at trade vs trading physical goods.
But yesterday I started wondering, is “what money actually is” one of the tools that can be used to enforce (in disguise) what is essentially modern day serfdom? That for those warlords money would be an extremely effective tool to keep the peasantry working away for merely crumbs without realising just what is going on. After all if I was to hand over a weeks worth of grain for a few crumbs of bread I could not help but see the blatant exploitation, perhaps eventually leading to a revolt by the peasant masses.
Hi Kuba,
The serfdom and exploitation of the peasants existed long before the “Monetary Crimes”. I just now remembered a story ‘Vineeto’s’ then-mother read out to the young siblings and ‘her’ on a winter’s evening about peasants bringing their grain to the Landlord in exchange for other goods in return, when one bright lad figured out that the Landlord’s scales were corrupt – so that on top of the meagre exchange rate they were additionally diddled of their ‘just’ reward for their hard work. There was no happy ending to the story, the one who had the power ‘won’ the dispute. ‘Vineeto’ was about 10-yrs at the time and I remember that this injustice affected ‘her’ deeply. ‘She’ had just found out, via this realistic story, that life in the world was not just and fair.
You are still correct in your thinking that “money was a currency that was more efficient at trade vs trading physical goods”, while your thinking about going back to exchanging grain for other goods is highly unpractical and certainly not a viable solution for the massive monetary corruption, just like a “revolt by the peasant masses” is not a solution either. You can work this out for yourself when you acquaint yourself with some of the history of peasant revolts. The minor revolts were squashed by those who owned the guns, and mass revolutions, many of them in the name of ‘communist’ revolutions all turned into dictatorships with atrocious bloodshed by the new rulers. Here is the number of people being killed by their own governments – (Richard, Abditorium, 160 Million War Deaths, #Autocratic Governments). It far exceeds war-deaths.
I tried to access the link Richard gave for the book of Alexander de Mar, A History Of Monetary Crimes 1899-1983 but it had expired. Here is a current link – https://alor.org/Storage/Library/PDF/DelMar_A-A_History_Of_Monetary_Crimes.pdf
It is certainly a fascinating read and I remember when Richard first told me about the book 10 years ago. Here is a short quote –
“In 1662 Charles II. confirmed this renewal (of the money-coining and monopoly privileges of the East-India company) and, for a corrupt consideration, permanently established this Company of money-changers, privateers, fillibusters and bullies. From that year dates a new order of men in England. The Estates formerly consisted of the Crown, the Church, the Lords and the Commons. To these were now added the financiers, or Billoneurs, who have since almost entirely swallowed the others. Originally the financiers consisted of 215 monopolists under the title of the East India Company: they now comprise the entire world of money‑changers and bankers. This cosmopolitan band threatens the peace of mankind.” (Page 9).
Richard’s comments on the book and money-matters and the peasant mentality in general are as relevant today as they were then (Richard, List D, Rick, 3 June 2015) as well as this one (Richard, List D, Claudiu3, 18 May 2015).
Kuba: Where it seems to really get weird is that the values which eventually spring up from this system are designed to perpetuate the exploitation and yet the peasants learn to love and fight for… To even die for those very values, to sacrifice themselves and others for ‘freedom’ or for equality etc.
Yes indeed, that is the very sickness of the human condition. Again, descriptions such as ‘Stockholm syndrome’ or ‘Oslo Syndrome’ come to mind while it can also be called the tragedy of hope. And yet loyalty and belonging are the predominant passionate factors. Richard said to ‘Vineeto’ several times – “the human condition is very weird and the process of getting out of it can be equally weird at times.”
In short, as long as the peasant mentality exists, there will be peasants/ wage-slaves / social climbers and their insanely rich puppet masters and anything in-between. I found it very helpful to fully understand how the system of exploitation works in order to fully recognize that, just like ‘me’ the identity, it is too rotten to improve or revamp, for a lasting solution – it needs to disappear out of the human psyche in all its manifestations.
What is needed is a bloodless revolution by implementing the Third Alternative. There is no other way.
Cheers Vineeto
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