Quotes

Quite relevant to this ‘having no room in which to manoeuvre’:

From Selected Correspondence: Near-Actual Caring

To explain further: when out-from-control – out from being under control of the ‘controller’; that self-centred/ self-centric ‘doer’ (i.e., the ‘doer’ of deeds; the ‘actor’ of acts; the ‘speaker’ of words; the ‘thinker’ of thoughts; the ‘feeler’ of feelings) – the primary impetus of agency is the benevolence and benignity of pure intent being dynamically operative via the full concurrence of the ‘beer’[1] of those deeds, acts, words, thoughts, feelings (i.e., being the experiencing of same, as a state-of-being, as opposed to doing them).

And the words “primary impetus of agency” (‘impetus’ as in, “being dynamically operative”, that is) are used advisedly as, with the ‘doer’ abeyant and the ‘beer’ ascendant, the modus operandi of this mutual agency is indeterminable due to an incapacity to distinguish between the one and the other.


  1. The ‘Beer’

    • [Richard]: There is, of course, no ‘beer’ to be the experiencing of agency in actuality: here in the actual world this flesh-and-blood body is the agency itself; as such, this infinite and eternal and perpetual universe is experiencing its own infinitude, as an apperceptive sentient creature, and this is truly wonderful. ↩︎

On desire, priority, obsession …

RESPONDENT: In writing this and the other things I wrote this weekend somehow there is no effort involved (perhaps that shows!). My experience is just deep, round, soft, full, still, pleasure of moments of being here, and of understandings building on each other.

RICHARD: Good … yet one has to reach out – extend oneself – like one has never done before. One has to want peace-on-earth as the number one priority in one’s life. One has to desire freedom from the Human Condition to the point of obsession and beyond … it is that urgent and essential. And one does it for a two-fold purpose: for the good of oneself in particular and for one’s fellow humans in general.

https://www.actualfreedom.com.au/sundry/frequentquestions/FAQ43a.htm


Miguel paraphrasing Geoffrey:

Here it is:

RICHARD: The very fact of the propinquity of death became a pivotal element in taking the first step on the wide and wondrous path, back in 1981, when a neighbouring farmer’s fourteen-year old son was killed in a car crash. A woman from another farm, whilst telling me all about it, bemoaned the fact that his future as a potential concert-pianist was tragically cut short (quite a normal observation).

What struck me rigid for the nonce was the more valid fact that this boy had virtually missed-out on a normal childhood through being forced, by well-meaning parents of course, into endless hours of piano-practice while his siblings and peers were outside playing games (as children are wont to do). And now he was dead – it had all been for naught – and he would never, ever be able to come out and play.

From that moment on death was my constant companion; an ever-present reminder that to die without having ever lived fully – as in totally fulfilled, completely satisfied, utterly content – was such a waste of a life.

I would say to people, then, that were I to live that which the PCE’s had made apparent – as in an irrevocable permanency – for only five minutes I would then happily die.

That is how precious an actual freedom from the human condition is. Selected Correspondence: Death: 'Self'-Immolation versus Immortality

The part that stood out to me: “were I to live that which the PCE’s had made apparent – as in an irrevocable permanency – for only five minutes I would then happily die”

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Thanks for this famous ‘five minutes quote’. This is ‘on the money’ for me right now and most definitely rings a bell.

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RICK: It has been about a year now that I’ve been diligently applying the method and have not been able to remember nor experience one yet.

RICHARD: Maybe, just maybe, the activation of the amazement, the marvelling, and the wonderment, already mentioned above might be in order? And I only mention this because sensuosity is an integral part of the process of being as happy and as harmless as is humanly possible.

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RICK: But I’m still feeling lost and I feel a well deserved PCE is what I need to put some focus, clarity and motivation in ridding the ‘parasitical entity inhabiting this flesh and blood body’. What to do?

RICHARD: Again, and especially as you mention feeling lost, come to your senses – literally – as much as is possible so as to better enjoy and appreciate being alive on this verdant and azure planet, which is simply floating/ hanging effortlessly in infinite space at this moment in eternal time, by cultivating the awareness that everything and everybody is coming from nowhere and nowhen and is, similarly, going nowhere and nowhen as everything and everybody only ever actually exists right now.

Put succinctly: there is nowhere/ nowhen else to be … this is it!

Selected Correspondence: Pure Consciousness Experience

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Useful quote from Richard about seeing facts:

Richard: Is not ‘understanding’ something the same thing as ‘analysing’ something? To understand something is to intellectually grasp a concept successfully. This may be the activity of ‘I’ thinking as clearly as ‘I’ can possibly think, yet it is not the same clarity as the clear seeing obtained in an insight … and an insight is seeing the fact.

When one sees the fact there is action … and this action is the actualising of the insight so that one’s personality is changed, irrevocably. This change is the beginning of the ending of the ‘self’ one was born with. ‘I’ can not stand exposure to the bright light of awareness for too long without crumpling like a leaky balloon. ‘I’ survive only by being able to lurk around in the shadows of inattention and obfuscation.

‘I’ was born with the instinct to survive, and ‘I’ will do anything to stay in existence, for it is in ‘my’ nature to do so. Intellectually grasping a concept and calling it an insight is part ‘my’ game plan. The seeing of this fact is a direct experience of the actuality of the Human Condition. … this is actual wisdom. And out of that wisdom there is the essential intensity for the actualisation.

This actualisation is the ending of ‘me’ in ‘my’ entirety.

Source: Richard, List B, No. 12, 16 February 1998.

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Richard: One of the main keys to success is a focus on time itself as a sensate experience. My oft-repeated refrain is this: ‘The first step to being free is the actual understanding that this moment in time is the only place where being alive happens. The past, although it was actual when it did happen, is not actual now. The future, although it will be actual when it does happen, is not actual now. Only now is actual and as it is always now then the purity of innocence is perpetually here already … where time has no duration. Then what one is – as this body being apperceptively aware – is this material universe experiencing itself as a sensate, reflective human being. The physical space of this universe is infinite and its time is eternal … thus the infinitude of this very material universe has no beginning and no ending … and therefore no middle. There are no edges to this universe, which means that there is no centre, either. We are all coming from nowhere and are not going anywhere for there is nowhere to come from nor anywhere to go to. We are nowhere in particular … which means we are anywhere at all’.

To be the consciousness of the infinitude … it is no little thing that one does.

Source: Richard’s Correspondence On The Actual Freedom Mailing List With Correspondent No. 3

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R: What initially stands in the way of action is the fear that one will become an outcast. The sum total of humanity’s drive is to cultivate the feeling of belonging. One feels that by no longer belonging one will live in solitude and isolation. Nothing could be further from the truth, because this is a feeling, not a fact.

The fact of being on one’s own is unlike the feeling of being alone … which is loneliness. By daring to be an outcast – that is, standing on one’s own – one discovers that loneliness vanishes. I do not belong to any group … yet I can live here because I have found intimacy – with myself and with all people. Not only has the need to belong become redundant, it is an assurance of safety and security. The sense of belonging is a chancy deception. Losing oneself in the flock contributes not only group highs but to mass hysteria … and mob riots. Just as marital disharmony can lead to domestic violence, so too can civil unrest and communal violence lead to war.

All because of belonging.

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I am experiencing not belonging w/o being lonely.

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The ‘make-up of the [actualist] attentiveness’ (HAIETMOBA) is based on ‘the focus [upon] how the identity in toto is standing in the way of the already always existing peace-on-earth being apparent just here right now’.

RESPONDENT: While, I’ve had a easier time shortening the question to ‘how am I feeling?’ I’ve chosen to ‘stick it out’ with the original method to possibly figure ‘why’ I have a problem with it ‘as it stands’. Oh, how I wish it to become a ‘nonverbal approach to life’! (whatever that means).

RICHARD: It means that the words ‘how am I experiencing this moment of being alive’ simply refer the make-up of the attentiveness being applied … as distinct from, say, the buddhistic ‘mindfulness’ (which is another ball-game entirely).

In other words the focus is upon how the identity in toto is standing in the way of the already always existing peace-on-earth being apparent just here right now.

RESPONDENT: Does that mean that the question eventually ‘stops’ as you’re always attentive to your experience?

RICHARD: Yes (it is that simple).

RESPONDENT: While, I consider your description of how you experience life to not only be perfect and peerless, that does not negate problems on my part in getting there.

RICHARD: Okay … basically the question ‘how am I experiencing this moment of being alive’ means ‘what is preventing a pure consciousness experience (PCE) from happening at this moment?’ Or, to put it another way, ‘what is preventing the already always existing peace-on-earth (as evidenced in the PCE) from being apparent?

Perfect peace and harmony is just here – right now – for the very asking

https://actualfreedom.com.au/sundry/commonobjections/CRO30a.htm

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Techniques vs Method

RICHARD: Lastly, the ‘Summary of the Entire Path’ which Claudiu posted on the 31st of October, 2013, in Message № 15710 is well worth reading (or re-reading if applicable) as it lays out how he came to realise just what the actualism method actually is – as distinct from the tools (i.e., ‘techniques’ a.k.a. ‘technics’ or ‘techs’) for facilitating the actualism method – in a fresh, newly-discovered kind of way.

@syd Can you provide a link to message 15710 that you referred to above in Technigues vs Method ?

From the tooltip:

Message 15710
From: Claudiu
Date: 31 Oct 2013
Subject: a summary of the entire path

[Claudiu]: Hello all,
Before going to Australia, I emailed Richard to ask him how I could best take advantage of my trip. Unfortunately I wasn’t in the position at that point to really fully appreciate it. However, I found it relevant to what we’ve been discussing recently, so I’ve asked and he has given me his permission to post an excerpt from the email he sent in reply.

• [Claudiu]: By the way, thanks (again if I previously thanked you) for agreeing to meet with me. Not only am I lucky enough to be alive during a time when an actual freedom is possible, but now I get to interact with the first actually free human, himself! The prospect of our meeting has certainly spurred my practice onward, and it seems like things are falling into place more & more.
I do want to maximize the benefit gained from this visit, so, is there anything in particular I should do up to then, besides practice as sincerely and naively and tapping into pure intent as much as humanly possible?
I think I now remember a PCE I had as a child, which was previously forgotten, during a sunny care-free day back in Romania, where I was born. (I think I had a PCE after beginning to get into (first) spiritual and (then) actualism practice, but I think the peak (the PCE proper) was brief and I think ‘I’ spent most of the time (of a few hours after the peak) hovering just on the edge, hoping to fall in, but not managing, and generally trying to maintain that state instead of letting go.)
Now, whenever ‘I’ am caught up in some emotion or thought loop or identity-creation (like defending ‘me’ and ‘others’ on the yahoo mailing list), it seems I can just advert to that memory, and the remembering of such immediately brings more clarity as to what is going on (as what is going on was so obviously totally not occurring during the PCE). So it seems all I must do is continuously incline the mind as such, and do that ‘till there ain’t no ‘me’ left. Do you have any comments on that course of action?
• [Richard]: Pleased to read of you recollecting a childhood PCE, during a sunny carefree day in Romania, and the best way to maximise the benefit gained from this trip is, of course, none other than what has become known as the actualism method … to wit: enjoying and appreciating being alive, each moment again, come what may.
It really is that simple: all the rest – such as feeling as happy and as harmless as is humanly possible, each moment again, by minimising both those futile malicious/ sorrowful feelings plus their antidotal loving/ compassionate feelings (and, thereby, maximising the felicitous/ innocuous feelings via this sensible utilisation of the potency of affective energy), for instance, and by being as naïve as is humanly possible, in order to be naiveté (and, hence, be sensitive to and receptive of the overarching pure intent), via being sincere about achieving one’s goal (in order to, thus, be sincerity in action) of peace-on-earth in this lifetime, for example, concomitant to coming to one’s senses both literally and metaphorically – are the various ways and means of effecting that very enjoyment and appreciation of being alive, each moment again, regardless of the situation and the circumstances.
Put succinctly: the means to the end – enjoying and appreciating being alive – are, therefore, no different to that end (the very enjoyment and appreciation of being alive) other than the former is, of course, affective in its nature and the latter is, quite obviously, actual by its very disposition.
Lastly, the actualism method segues into what has become known as the actualism process when the actualism method has become so automatic, via habituation, that one is walking about in a state of wide-eyed wonder (naiveté) simply marvelling at being alive (sensuosity) and being amazed/delighted that all this – the world about/the universe itself – is occurring in the first place; the actualism process is when it becomes more and more difficult to distinguish the difference between one doing it (doing this business called being alive) and it happening of its own accord; when one becomes the experiencing of being alive/of it all occurring of its own accord one is then out-from-control (not “out of control” as in wayward) and a different-way-of-being has ensued.
It all becomes rather magical (“magical” as in prestidigitation) after that.

What stands out here for me is the idea clearly presented here is that the actualism method is enjoying and appreciating being alive, each moment again, come what may. That is the actualism method. I remember when first reading it that this pierced my worldview somewhat, because I recognized that I wasn’t doing that. That made me feel uncomfortable cause I had supposedly been putting actualism into practice for many months. Unfortunately I didn’t take the opportunity to start going about changing those things I’d need to change to get to the point where I would be enjoying and appreciating each moment of being alive. Instead I remained as I had been and it took a few more encounters with this fact – that the actualism method is enjoying and appreciating each moment of being alive.
The second paragraph makes it clear that everything else, all the other techniques, are ways to effect the enjoyment and appreciation of being alive. Also note that that is regardless of the situation and the circumstances. So all the things like minimizing good & bad feelings & maximizing felicitous feelings & being naivete & attentiveness & sensuousness etc are techinques one uses to effect the goal, which is enjoying and appreciating each moment of being alive.
The same goes for eliminating the social identity. The social identity really prevents enjoying being alive! It’s like the first most obvious thing that is preventing it. Of course it hasn’t arisen on its own, so once it is taken care of you get to the rawer good & bad feelings, and then those must be minimized as well. But yea it’s all about enjoying & appreciating being alive!
Then Richard goes into how an out-from-control way of being occurs: it’s when enjoying & appreciating each moment of being alive has become so automatic because one has been doing it so much. And from there actual freedom is right around the corner.


Also, just noticing this now, but the way I phrased my queries were all in terms of the techniques. What should I do? Is this ok?

  • practice as sincerely as possible
  • practice as naively as possible
  • tap into pure intent as much as possible
  • notice when i am being emotional and advert to a memory of a PCE in order to see the emotion more clearly
  • continue to incline the mind towards to pce
  • do this until there’s no ‘me’ left
  • let go in order to allow the PCE to happen/ to allow me to “fall in”.
    Sounds good on the surface, maybe, to the untrained eye, but nowhere in that list did I ever mention actually enjoying and appreciating this moment of being alive! It’s like I didn’t know what the point was at all. Which is an accurate way to describe it.

Hope this helps!

  • Claudiu
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VINEETO: To examine the so-called ‘good’ emotions of nurture, care, sympathy, friendship, duty, love and compassion is a fascinating subject and can only be done by questioning and examining at the same time the morals and ethics of society that forms one’s very social identity. If one wants to be actually free of the Human Condition, one has to examine and recognize that ‘good’ simply means ‘morally acceptable’ and ‘right’ is just another ethical value, both of which vary from tribe to tribe and from society to society. The ‘good’ is a much a bondage as the ‘bad’ – even more so because it seems much more desirable. As humans we don’t want to lose the other’s affection and reassurance, the appreciation of our peers, the cozy safety of being part of a family or group, the comforting knowledge of doing what everyone considers the ‘right’ thing or the ‘good’ deed.

Freedom lies in the opposite direction. On the path to actual freedom I did not bother to try to solve the moral or ethical problems of what is ‘good’ or ‘right’ but focused my attention instead on discovering my own ethical and moral values – my social identity in action. ‘Ah, I’m trying to find out what is right? I’m upset that someone did the ‘wrong’ thing? I’m aiming again to be a ‘good’ person?’ These were indications that my moral identity was in action and I used my awareness to examine this very identity and learned to step out of it. What is now left is a simple sensible solution – and mostly my worries were seen to be an S.E.P.-situation, Someone Else’s Problem. Once I understood that it is only me who can set myself free I also understood that everyone has to do it for themselves as well. What perfect arrangement. It for sure saves one saving people

Selected Correspondence Vineeto, Morals.

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Hmm.

This is perplexing thought pattern, I can’t comprehend it, but I am willing to explore it.

This makes sense at first glance. We feel good emotions when we are being affirmed and thus no matter what the morality of a group is, good feelings arise when we conform in a way that affirms our belonging and thus survival and reproductive worth.

This is terrible though. The Aztecs were slaughtering young women (and men?) on top of their versions of pyramids. By the premise that good feelings arise from moral correctness, then both those slaughtering, and being slaughtered felt “good feelings “.

This reaffirms the startling and terrible premise; if for the most extreme, and historically accurate example, a child is sexually exploited and then slaughtered on an altar, both the child and the sexual exploiter and slaughterer would have experienced good feelings.

All conformed to the morality of the tribe and group.

To emphasise this, I recently watched a video of the most preserved remains of a mummified individual in Chile.

She was a young girl, who had travelled an extreme distance, and was most likely a class of child destined for ritual prostitution or sacrifice, buried with cocaine leaves in her mouth.

So, this requires some consideration. If all involved are experiencing good feelings, because they are morally in alignment with the tribe, how is that something to be free of?

I am not objecting to actual freedom here. I am not objecting at all, honestly! This just seems so bizarre!

Good feelings arise through the fact that an individual is completely conformed with the moral code of the tribe.

Or is that a misunderstanding?

To go further, to prove this isn’t written with an adversarial intent; I have never examined “good feelings “.

Shocking as that may be, I never really got beyond any of the bad feelings.:joy:

I genuinely find that funny!! Like it’s really funny to me that it’s true!

Indeed, I am having a thought now that I will continue to explore. “Good feelings “ especially the compassionate, empathetic, and loving kind are so deeply embedded in the fabric of who I am, I am starting to wonder if it was always going to be a challenge for me to question anything.

The thought being, I find anger so refreshing! Sadness too. I have not had motivation to be free of being “mad” and “sad” as they are a holiday for me.

That’s a conjecture, and speculation. Questioning “good feelings “ especially in the context of this quotation, is radically new to me!

Thanks for the quote. Hopefully all can see my smiling and perplexed face in writing this.

So, there is something missing in this thought between the “cozy safety “ and the thought that one would want to be “free” from it.

Why?

If the good feelings arise from doing what ever “every one else considers the right or good deed” then completely conforming to the same will result in perpetual good feelings.

Where is the trigger that anyone would want to be free?

Is the trigger the premise that some types of “evil” are genetic?

I say that with minimal research beyond have remembered that many assert that psychopaths are genetically predisposed.

Perhaps nature has this blind way of sparking the desire for freedom?

I mean, if good feelings arise from being what the tribe says I ‘good’ then there is nothing to be free from. No matter the tribe treats the individual, all involved will experience good feelings.

So there has to be something which triggers the desire be “free”.

Leading to the religious idea that “evil” , that is “bad feelings “ are the problem.

But how?

I am sure that this is going to end in me “emotionally accepting “ that I do not know, and probably cannot know the answer to “how” or “why”..

:joy::joy::joy: