Hi Felipe,
Sure – I’m basically saying that it’s a lot easier to go out-from-control than you might think it is.
With this message I’m really striving to address someone like me who really wants to know exactly how to go out-from-control so that they can actually do it. With that in mind… my perception of going out-from-control before I did it is best epitomized by my reaction in 2017 to this answer that Dona gave to Solvann:
30 Sep 2017
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Solvann: If I met Richard I would ask him: “When you were living a virtual freedom and you noticed yourself slipping back into normal, what specific ingredient did you apply more of to get back to happy and harmless?”Basically it’s about how to get back to feeling good (for all of us who are not virtual free = can’t do it consistently).
Dona: for clarification, Richard was out-from-control virtually free, which is a shift, a “different way of being”. He said he only had one instance of “slipping back to normal”, which only lasted a few minutes, and he didn’t do anything to get back to being out-from-control.
It seems from your question you might be referring to “in control” virtual freedom, where someone is feeling good at this moment, and each moment again for the rest of their lives. Richard skipped right over this, and right into “out from control” virtual freedom. [source]
At the time, when I read that Richard “skipped right over” an in-control virtual freedom and went directly to going out from control, my reaction was along the lines of a somewhat cynical, “well how special and magical ‘Richard’ was, meanwhile the rest of us have to work at it and it’s not so easy”.
Whereas the actually correct way to receive this information is: “wow, ‘Richard’ was a feeling-being just like we are now, and he was able to go directly out from control without a prolonged period of applying the actualism method… that means that anybody can do this too, going out from control does not have the prerequisites we might think it does, it’s really much easier!”
Further, when I read that Richard only had one instance of slipping to normal, and that he “didn’t do anything to get back to being out-from-control”, my reaction was again a similar type of “well Richard was so extraordinary that he could do that, the rest of us can’t”. Whereas the correct appraisal, which I can confirm from my own experience now, is “wow, how easy and effortless being out-from-control is! We should strive to do that as soon as possible!”
The way I would put it now, to someone for whom it seems nearly impossible to go out-from-control, is that, first of all, you haven’t done it before, so you don’t know how to do it, and indeed won’t really know how until it’s happening. But this doesn’t prevent you from following the advice of someone who did and trying until it works.
And, secondly, there actually is no barrier or requirement or prerequisite to go out-from-control, other than genuinely wanting it and allowing it to happen[1]. That is, the reason it hasn’t worked to go out-from-control is not because it is ‘hard’ or ‘difficult’ or you have to ‘be’ a special person or ‘wait’ until the time is right… it’s because ‘you’ have an objection, ‘you’ are putting up some resistance to allowing it to happen.
Having objections and putting up resistance is all perfectly normal of course… and it also serves as making it obvious precisely how to go about allowing it to happen: reflect on it, consider it, contemplate it, read the reports Kuba and I are putting out of what it is like to be out-from-control, consider what it would be like if this were happening in your life, intend to do it and allow yourself to do it, and when an objection comes up, look at it and resolve it – and rinse and repeat until it is happening!
What made this totally obvious for me, that it’s just about wanting it to happen, is what I initially reported in as a “speed bump” starting on Jul 27th (#194), elaborated as being “more of a derailment” 12 days later on Aug 8th (#198), which fully resolved another 12 days later on Aug 20th (#210). This is how the “derailment” started:
CLAUDIU: Faced with [the actual ending of ‘me’] as the obvious next step, I hit upon a distinct patch of hesitation and “well hold on a sec”. This is something that I will actually have to do, which will mean the actual end of me – no longer a theoretical step at some point in the future, but something that actually will happen, or rather has to happen for me to attain my destiny. [#194]
In other words, it was inescapably obvious that it was ‘me’ putting up a resistance that caused it to fizzle out. Over the course of those 24 days, I increasingly came to see that all ‘me’ and ‘my’ antics ever amount to is a completely sub-par outcome. In other words, I saw it was simply not better to remain being ‘me’ as ‘I’ was, it was a worse outcome not a better one. There was no silver lining either, there was no “it’s better in some ways but worse in others” – it was just clear that it is worse in every way.
Finally I had seen enough that I then began to be drawn back to it, and then with some concerted pin-pointing and thoughts of a particular objection, once it got resolved I found myself already back to being out-from-control as if there was no 24-day gap in it (as I wrote in #210).
And what did you do exactly to ultimately cause or aid the shift to this state?
In addition to everything above, I encourage you to (re-)read #173 where I gave some advice to @Kub933 who was wondering “how to proceed” from where he was into going out-from-control. It seemed to work for him as ~25 days later he was out-from-control, as he reported in #188.
I’ll also take this opportunity to encourage @Kub933 to answer this same question
Cheers & best regards,
Claudiu
I was about to add that you also have to know what it is – but Richard didn’t know what it is, him having been the first one. Probably you do have to experientially know what pure intent is, as that is what will be increasingly operant as a result of going out-from-control. ↩︎