Andrew: So…
Haha, I always love to open with “So”.
How is it, that such innocence can be the carrier of such destruction?
Hi Andrew,
What innocence? Do you genuinely believe that babies are born innocent – especially after your previous insight on guilt? (link)
Co-Respondent: I’m not out murdering, raping, abusing people and that sort of thing – as many people are not. Is one ‘guilty’ just by having a ‘human nature’?
Richard: Not by having a human nature … by being human nature (‘I’ am ‘my’ feelings and ‘my’ feelings are ‘me’): ‘I’ am guilty by virtue of ‘my’ very presence: it is ‘me’ as a psychological/psychic ‘being’ (at root an instinctual ‘being’) who is guilty of being harmful just by existing … but it is not ‘my’ fault as ‘I’ am not to blame for ‘my’ existence (if anything it is blind nature which is at fault or to blame).
In the normal human world one is considered guilty where one does nothing about one’s human nature. Traditionally people try to avoid this ‘doing nothing’ guilt by living in accord with culturally-determined morals and ethics and values and principles and mores and so on. However, when push comes to shove, this thin veneer of civilised life can vanish in an instant and the instinctual survival passions can come surging out in full force …
The solution to all this is to be found in the actual world: in a pure consciousness experience (PCE), where ‘I’ as ‘my’ feelings am temporarily absent, it will be experienced that one is innocent for the very first time … in a PCE there is not the slightest trace of guilt whatsoever to be found. ‘Tis a remarkably easy way to live. (Richard, AF List, No. 27b, 17 Aug 2002).
More information at Richard’s Selected Correspondence on Innocence and any other topic which you find fascinating enough to explore further (Richard, Selected Correspondence, Index).
Perhaps some taking advantage of the vast amount of information, freely available on the Actual Freedom Trust website, would be beneficial before you squander your time and energy on having feelings about theories and beliefs that are far from factual?
Andrew: For context, and to avoid my historical habit of being cryptic and mysterious; my otherwise cheerful, adventurous, and caring mother, has carried and passed on all the horrors of the human condition.
Just as every mother and father in all of history has done.
Wow.
What a betrayal!
Each of us, grown in the innocence of ignorance and being completely new to being alive at all, carry on this utter insanity! (link)
Again, as ignorance is not innocence, there was no “betrayal” to be outraged or indignant about – “every mother and father in all of history” have been genetically endowed with instinctual passions and furnished with social conditiong and passed this on to the next generation, just as you have done with your own children.
It’s worth contemplating from this angle –
Richard: … “it is not ‘my’ fault as ‘I’ am not to blame for ‘my’ existence (if anything it is blind nature which is at fault or to blame).” (Richard, AF List, No. 27b, 17 Aug 2002).
Cheers Vineeto