Musturbation (REBT)

In the interest of sharing ‘techniques’ a.k.a. ‘technics’ or ‘techs’, I thought I’d share something interesting I came across of late:

The word ‘musturbation’ is basically a fancy way of referring to ‘demands’ (aka. unconditional shoulds and absolutistic musts) we place on the world of people, things and events at large, viz:

Demandingness. Referred to colourfully by Ellis as ‘musturbation’, demandingness refers to the way people hold unconditional shoulds and absolutistic musts – believing that certain things must or must not happen, and that certain conditions (for example success, love, or approval) are absolute necessities. Demandingness implies certain ‘Laws of the Universe’ that must be adhered to. Demands can be directed both internally and outwardly. REBT suggests that there are three basic musts:

  1. Demands about the self;
  2. Demands about others;
  3. Demands about the world.

[..] it seems that there is almost always a demand at the root of a person’s emotional or behavioural problems

(In absence of demands, one would naturally put it all on preference basis).

I came across this word, and REBT (Rational Emotive Behaviour Therapy) in general, as part of my usual fun exercise in finding out accurate and specific labels for feelings. I discovered, then, that (covert) demands constituted a large part of my social identity! It also enabled me to begin to become free of them over time.

The other thing I could relate to from REBT is:

Secondary disturbance Another unique feature of REBT is its recognition of the importance of working with ‘secondary disturbances’, that is, problems about problems (e.g. feeling guilty about being angry, or anxious about becoming anxious). More about this later.

‘Secondary disturbances’ have been another very-entrenched habit of mine, and it is useful to put a ‘label’ on it, as it makes it easier to recognize it action.

REBT’s approach to self-esteem / self-worth also hits the mark quite easily in regards to its redundance:

Absence of Self-Evaluation

REBT has a unique approach to the common therapeutic problem of ‘low self-esteem’. Many therapists would try to help people with low self-esteem by encouraging them to regard themselves as ‘worthy’ human beings. REBT therapist takes a radically different approach – encouraging the client to throw out the idea of self-esteem entirely! This involves giving up the practice of trying to judge human beings as ‘worthy’ (a notion, incidentally, that implies it is possible for them to be ‘unworthy’!); and getting rid of the idea that people somehow need ‘value’ or ‘esteem’.

If this strikes a chord with people, I’d recommend reading the first 4 pages of that PDF. I only found the concepts relevant, to the extent ‘labelling’ is helpful; I haven’t bothered much with the detailed processes and exercises described in the rest of the PDF.

Haha,

Now that we are best mates, I can appreciate what is appealing with this.

For the record, I will be calling in “sick” to my workmates tomorrow, as it is now 2:16am. I am not going to be there!

@syd this has been a topic for me over the past weeks, if not months.

Being kind to myself.

If I were back in the days of meditation and the DhO, we would have called the these “meta - feelings “.

Actually, I am not sure about that. I been a long time.

Feelings about feelings.

This is what we have both discovered in divergent ways, and in divergent terms.

It’s related back to what has been my touchstone saying “ emotionally accepting the intellectually unacceptable “ statement of Richard.

I really struggled with this statement for over a decade. I had no idea what he was saying.

It was a couple of months back that I disciplined myself to understand it.

It’s been a goldmine to “accept “ it into my internal monologue, and thinking regime.

Allowing myself to ‘be’ anger. Or whatever else, whist as Adam posted in his second definition of “being friends with myself “ not allowing myself to experience less that “the best”. (Paraphrasing).

Your “being kind to myself” reminded me of Richard’s “being friends with yourself” (link), which Anglic apophthegm did nothing for me personally (the same goes for his “putting everything on a does-not-really-matter-in-the-long-run basis” whereas “Demandingness” readily clicked for me). But, knowing what I now know about ‘secondary disturbations’ as they habitually occur moment to moment in my life, I now see that it is pretty much in the same territory.

Page 22 of https://www.arebt.org/pdf/jrebt2002.pdf#page=22 might be of interest as far as propaedeutic-appellative lucubrations of this affective epiphenomenon go.

It generally helps to be aware of these ‘secondary disturbances’ in oneself each and every moment they occur (it is part and parcel of HAIETMOBA, anyway), and have fun with it (link), because the whole point is to imitate the PCE via enjoying and appreciating being here right now (link) … and thusly those ‘secondary disturbances’ become less prevalent over time, thereby increasing that very enjoyment & appreciation of being alive in the process (the way to have fun is by having fun in finding out why one is not having fun!).

I have found a lot of value by “pushing through “ with terms that Richard liked to use, even if they “do nothing for me” or even seemed wrong somehow.

The “emotionally accepting the intellectually unacceptable “ was a phase I could never grasp. However, have pushed through to various understandings of what he is saying and importantly, why I had a problem with it to start with.

There are a few others too, where the choice of words “irks” me. I am glad to have discovered the value in contemplation until I can understand what he meant.

I am glad you are finding equivalents that are doing the trick. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

REBT has helped me put away much of my neurosis of last two decades in a mere matter of days.

REBT only goes so far, however, as it basically helps you normalize your emotions so to speak (my desire is normalized, for instance, and self-worth is basically nullified). Makes you a well-functioning adult in society. It is a good tool to whittle away the social identity to a large extent.

But, REBT is no longer useful to go further in actualism method, that’s where a simple seeing-the-silliness (in conjunction with pure intent & sensuosity & naiveté) comes into picture. And here, reading Richard’s words is totally relateable.