Kub933's Journal

[Vineeto]

Kuba: This morning I became fascinated by the fact that ‘I’ cannot possibly be in charge of life. This self imposed burden is actually in contradiction with the facts. I remembered Richard writing in his journal of the gardening work he did whilst being lived by pure intent, how that which required attention could not be ignored, how the next part would present itself naturally, no need for any ‘grand plan’.
It is funny because one of the greatest objections ‘I’ had towards the universe was that no matter how hard ‘I’ tried to be in charge, to make things happen according to the ‘grand plan’, it was to no use. How much anxiety and stress ‘I’ lived trying to force ‘myself’ onto the universe and failing each time.
What ‘I’ didn’t see was that ‘my’ greatest objection is also the direction towards ‘my’ release. The facts of life as it actually happens make it impossible for ‘me’ to ever be in charge. And what a wonderful thing that is! Because it means that whatever burden ‘I’ impose upon ‘myself’ is not required, it was never required. And even if ‘I’ wanted to play that game (which ‘I’ did) ‘I’ could only pretend. Experiencing this utter freedom, of life already always living itself I once again had tears of appreciation running, seeing that this is here for everybody.

Hi @Kuba,

This is music to my ears.

It is fascinating to see how you and Claudiu come to very similar conclusions simultaneously. It is indeed “impossible for ‘me’ to ever be in charge” – which had been the very insight which allowed you to start on this line of inquiry and decide to get out from under control. And once I see that ‘I’ cannot possibly be in charge there is barely any justification left for ‘me’ to stay in existence – being in charge and carrying the burden of that responsibility is ‘my’ very raison d’être. As you rightly conclude, “you are here to enjoy and appreciate only”.

Kuba: I saw it as if the universe, in giving birth to this body has handed out an invitation to paradise. The invitation reads “everything is already in place, you are here to enjoy and appreciate only”.

What a wonderful new and naïve way of phrasing it – life is “an invitation to paradise”. I like it. It is indeed your birthright and your destiny both.

Kuba: It is a funny one though because I notice that the very language of ‘humanity’, the whole thrust of it all is a battle of ‘self’ against the universe, ‘I’/‘we’ have been straining for eons to battle against these facts of life. Sometimes I struggle to talk with others when every word is laden with these meanings e.g. “where do you see yourself in 5 years”, “who are you”, “what are your plans for the future”, “what do you believe in” etc. It might as well be a foreign language at times lol.

Yes, human language is entirely created and developed by feeling beings with a past, present and future as a straight line to go from A to B to C until death. It makes you aware of the aeons of human socialisation which you are about to leave behind.
Therefore Richard put so much care and consideration to find accurate, non-affective words and definitions for his experiential reports in ‘Terra Actualis’ and for feeling-beings to nevertheless understand what he is explaining to them (Abditorium, Index). Re-reading posts from earlier mailing lists I am constantly amazed how meticulously, and repeatedly, he explains the difference of real-world perception/affective interpretation and the descriptions of his own ongoing experience in the actual-world.

Kuba: So it has been a complete turn around for me since the days of the rift thread, of being in favour of ‘new school actualism’. I can see how very important it is for individuals to go completely beyond any shred of that illusion. To maintain ‘humanity’ in any degree is to perpetuate that fever dream in one’s fellow human beings. There are only facts and then there is illusion/delusion, why perpetuate the latter?
I realise there is only 1 person currently alive that exists as a genuinely safe target for others to aim for, 1 person able to speak securely to others completely outside of any illusion, with no shred of it left, and thus unable to perpetuate it in others.

I much appreciate your deep understanding of this fact that “to maintain ‘humanity’ in any degree is to perpetuate that fever dream in one’s fellow human beings”. It is vital for perfection and purity to be accessible for everybody. Yes, presently there is only one person fully free but I am informed that others are well on their way. Moreover –

[Richard]: The words and writings of both an actual and a virtual freedom from the human condition – be they spoken, printed or in pixels are now stored away in brain cells, on bookshelves and hard drives/ tapes/ CD’s/ DVD’s all around the globe. (link)

Kuba: I have so much appreciation for you @Vineeto, that this is what you are, it activates the desire in me to do what I can towards enabling peace on earth and a life in full meaning for all. What a ridiculously high standard and yet this is what I always wanted. Now this is something that I can do.

I deeply appreciate your appreciation. It is a pleasure and delight to write on this forum with so many engaged actualists, quite a few on the cusp of slipping into the actual world at any moment.

I also deeply appreciate and welcome your “ridiculously high standard” – this evolution in human consciousness requires pioneers who aim for the best, if not ‘bester’, and we are not alone in this enterprise.

[Richard]: ‘I’ am not alone in this endeavour because ‘I’ can tap into the purity and perfection of the infinitude of this physical universe with a pure intent … (link)

Cheers and best regards Vineeto

PS: If I remember correctly the last concern regarding the ending of ‘you’ was that it is unknown and as such an unknown step. If you look at that again, this is not quite accurate – you know the actual world experientially from your PCEs and you may well remember that during a PCE you knew that you have always been here. This was/is the same experience for me when I became actually free – I have always been here, at the time the whole of my 47 years.

[Kub933]

@Vineeto

It is fascinating to see how you and Claudiu come to very similar conclusions simultaneously

Haha yes I have noticed the same thing a few times now. I didn’t initially see this one when I read @claudiu’s recent post but both our discoveries point in the same direction - ‘me’ being in charge / trying to ‘be’ perfect is a burden that is impossible to ever successfully carry out, what is more is that ‘I’ am this very burden. ‘I’ can never succeed in this burden, rather ‘I’ release ‘myself’ from ‘being’ this very burden, seeing that it was never required.

@Vineeto

Yes, human language is entirely created and developed by feeling beings with a past, present and future as a straight line to go from A to B to C until death.

Yes this is exactly what I was trying to get at, I find it takes a bit of adjusting to be able to interact with others when at times it is as if we are speaking a different language. I wonder if this is a skill that one polishes as an actually free person, accounting for identities when speaking with identity encumbered bodies?
This “paying lip service” is more difficult whilst in virtual freedom as ‘I’ am still in some ways stirred by this ‘real world language’, it is like ‘I’ am in-between reality and actuality and can kind of speak both languages, but neither is fluent

@Vineeto

PS: If I remember correctly the last concern regarding the ending of ‘you’ was that it is unknown and as such an unknown step. If you look at that again, this is not quite accurate – you know the actual world experientially from your PCEs and you may well remember that during a PCE you knew that you have always been here. This was/is the same experience for me when I became actually free – I have always been here, at the time the whole of my 47 years.

Yes and this is also what I can see, as identity is calenture it is not that there is anything of substance to be eliminated. It is as if one is possessed by a madness and then finally one comes to one’s senses to find that one has always been here.

However as ‘I’ am that very madness ‘I’ have to be willing to disappear in ‘my’ entirety. This is so that this body is freed from being as if a marrionette to the dictactes of ‘my’ illusions.

This is why it is correct to say that life happens of its own accord AND at the same time that ‘I’ am in control of this body.

[Kub933]

And indeed this body is possessed by a madness that is ‘me’. Only yesterday @Sonyaxx mentioned how her work colleague was stuck on a train as someone threw themselves under it. The person survived but it made me consider exactly this, that the actually innocent flesh and blood body was launched under a train by this madness, by ‘me’.

[Kub933]

@Vineeto

PS: If I remember correctly the last concern regarding the ending of ‘you’ was that it is unknown and as such an unknown step. If you look at that again, this is not quite accurate – you know the actual world experientially from your PCEs and you may well remember that during a PCE you knew that you have always been here. This was/is the same experience for me when I became actually free – I have always been here, at the time the whole of my 47 years.

This is also a weird one because on one hand I remember very clearly that during a PCE I see that I have always been here, that ‘I’ only imagined that ‘I’ existed and that what I have been all along, underneath all the illusion is this very body.

And yet the ‘I’ that has to self-immolate could use this as a way of bailing out from total extinction? That ‘I’ could try to take ‘myself’ into actuality. It’s funny really ‘I’ have to truly die and yet once ‘I’ die I can see that I was this body all along, and even before ‘my’ total extinction ‘I’ can see/remember this.

Am ‘I’ able to give ‘myself’ up even though ‘I’ know that on the other side there is such security, it seems like it would not be a true sacrifice? Perhaps I still believe that it must be a drama, that it must be somehow ultimately costly.

I remember years ago my brother saying that the way you judge a ‘good person’ is how much they are willing to suffer to benefit others, it’s like I am smuggling this into my contemplations around self immolation.

But seeing it from this new angle there is no drawback at all, that would mean it is extremely easy.

It’s like if I have been driving this low spec, broken down car my whole life, and now there is the offer to trade it in for a brand new, high spec one with no extra cash to be paid.
I have to sacrifice the old car and yet what I am giving it up for is better in every way, there is really no drawback.

Which reminds me of what Srinath wrote in his report of becoming actually free :

Furthermore I realised that what was coming was going to replace me. This new consciousness – of a piece with the body, would do the job of looking after this body and of caring for all, in a way that I could never manage because I was just too self-involved. I experienced for the first time that I was at cross-purposes to this body and was doing it no favours. I had to graciously bow out like a clumsy, incompetent old fool who had bumbled through life just about holding on to his job out of dumb luck. He realised that he had to hand over the reins to super-smart and infinitely better qualified young man.

[Vineeto]

[Richard]: The act of initiating this ‘process’ is altruism, pure and simple. (Richard, The Actual Freedom List, No. 60, 3 Dec 2003).
Also you may want to check out what I wrote to JesusCarlos recently - (link)
Cheers Vineeto

[Vineeto]

Vineeto: Yes, human language is entirely created and developed by feeling beings with a past, present and future as a straight line to go from A to B to C until death.

Kuba: Yes this is exactly what I was trying to get at, I find it takes a bit of adjusting to be able to interact with others when at times it is as if we are speaking a different language. I wonder if this is a skill that one polishes as an actually free person, accounting for identities when speaking with identity encumbered bodies?
This “paying lip service” is more difficult whilst in virtual freedom as ‘I’ am still in some ways stirred by this ‘real world language’, it is like ‘I’ am in-between reality and actuality and can kind of speak both languages, but neither is fluent.

Hi @Kuba,

You wonder if “speaking a different language” is a skill one polishes as an actually free person. In a way yes. When I read Richard’s correspondence I can see how by accurately conveying how he is experiencing himself he is honing his skills to report and describes as clearly as possible to his correspondents how he is experiencing himself as what he actually is. As it is a direct ongoing experience and unmediated by self-image, ethical or moral constraints, imagination and many other ‘self’-inflicted distortions, the description arises from the very experience itself. What can be, and is polished, is a larger variety of word choices, sentence structures, qualifiers to pre-empt misunderstanding and so on.

In normal life conversations (not on a specifically topical mailing list) I find there is a fair amount of ‘lip-service’ but I still stick to facts as much as possible when someone asks me for instance how I am today. In longer meetings I often am happy to take the part of listener and let the prevailing intimate atmosphere do the rest. It is often astounding how intimate some shorter or longer conversations can become when the other person is perceptive of/sensitive to the vibe-free and friendly milieu.

Only yesterday morning when visiting the workshop of the person fixing my air conditioner, we ended up having a conversation for about an hour where I had asked them about their medical troubles, which they had mentioned in passing the day before. They regaled me with their medical and practical odyssey which I found very interesting and informative and we both enjoyed each other’s company because of the intimacy which ensued from the absence of psychic vibes (on my part), the undivided attention and mutual interest.

I don’t think you need to be much concerned, Kuba, as it will be sincerity and naiveté which determine what you say, and only if you would want to present an image of what you are not, you could get tangled up in ‘language problems’.

Cheers Vineeto

[Vineeto]

Hi @Kuba,

The reason I answered in my last response (link) as I did was because of what you wrote regarding “that ‘I’ could try to take ‘myself’ into actuality.”

Kuba: And yet the ‘I’ that has to self-immolate could use this as a way of bailing out from total extinction? That ‘I’ could try to take ‘myself’ into actuality. It’s funny really ‘I’ have to truly die and yet once ‘I’ die I can see that I was this body all along, and even before ‘my’ total extinction ‘I’ can see/remember this.
Am ‘I’ able to give ‘myself’ up even though ‘I’ know that on the other side there is such security, it seems like it would not be a true sacrifice? Perhaps I still believe that it must be a drama, that it must be somehow ultimately costly.
I remember years ago my brother saying that the way you judge a ‘good person’ is how much they are willing to suffer to benefit others, it’s like I am smuggling this into my contemplations around self immolation.
But seeing it from this new angle there is no drawback at all, that would mean it is extremely easy.

When you start with “that ‘I’ could try to take ‘myself’ into actuality” it seems insurmountable because the instinct for self-preservation it too strong. You may have the best rational reasons and the best intentions but that is not enough. That’s where pure intent needs to guide you to consider something outside of ‘yourself’ in order to initiate the process for self-immolation. Viz.:

Richard: “There is an intrinsic trait common to all sentient beings: self-sacrifice. It manifests in humans in the way that ‘I’ will passionately defend ‘myself’ and ‘my group’ to the death if it is deemed necessary. All of ‘my’ instincts – the instinctive drive for biological survival – come to the fore when psychologically and psychically threatened, for ‘I’ am confused about ‘my’ presence, confounding ‘my’ survival and the body’s survival. Nevertheless, ‘my’ survival being paramount could not be further from the truth, for ‘I’ need play no part any more in perpetuating physical existence (which is the primal purpose of the instinctual animal ‘self’). ‘I’ am no longer necessary at all. In fact, ‘I’ am nowadays a hindrance. With all of ‘my’ beliefs, values, creeds, ethics and other doctrinaire disabilities, ‘I’ am a menace to the body. ‘I’ am ready to die (to allow the body to be killed) for a cause and ‘I’ will willingly sacrifice physical existence for a ‘Noble Ideal’ … and reap ‘my’ post-mortem reward: immortality.
This is called altruism … albeit misplaced.”

Richard: “The word altruism can be used in two distinctly different ways—in a virtuous sense (as in being an unselfish and/or selfless ‘self’) or in a zoological and/or biological sense (as in being diametrically opposite to selfism)—and it is the latter which is of particular interest to a person wanting to enable the already always existing peace-on-earth, in this lifetime as this flesh and blood body, as it takes a powerful instinctive impulse (altruism) to overcome a powerful instinctive impulse (selfism)—blind nature endows each and every human being with the selfish instinct for individual survival and the clannish instinct for group survival (be it the familial group, the tribal group, or the national group). By and large the instinct for survival of the group is the more powerful—as is epitomised in the honey-bee (when it stings to protect and/or defend the hive it dies)—and it is the utilisation of this once-in-a-lifetime gregarian action which is referred to in my oft-repeated ‘an altruistic ‘self’-sacrifice and/or ‘self’-immolation, in toto, for the benefit of this body and that body and every body.” (Altruism)

In other words, ‘you’ dare to care, ‘you’ care so much that ‘you’ are willing to give up willingly and irremunerably what ‘you’ consider ‘your’ most precious by making the most noble sacrifice that ‘you’ can make.

As you can see this has nothing at all to do with your brother’s belief that to be a ‘good person’ one has to be “willing to suffer to benefit others” – that would be the real-world virtue of unselfishness.

There is no suffering involved in self-immolation, it is the most wonderful experience when it happens, and by doing so you relieve yourself (your actual body) and your fellow humans from the burden of ‘your’ own ‘rottenness’, i.e., the burden of ‘your’ demands, dominance or subordination, jealousy, all psychic vibes and any potential future malice and sorrow.

Cheers Vineeto

[Kub933]

Thank you @Vineeto this is all becoming clearer, and things are getting more and more wonderful. I am certain that I am going to do it.

[Kub933]

So it seems I was onto something when I wrote the below :

In fact this has become a bit of an inside joke between me and @Sonyaxx now. Whenever things appear to be complicated/stressful and apparently requiring ‘my’ planning, scheming etc

I always say “I’m just gonna let the universe do it” and it has worked perfectly so far, 10/10! ps it was always going to happen that way anyways

I can see that it is no different with self-immolation, it is really what it says on the tin. ‘I’ can get a taste of what it is like when ‘I’ allow the universe to live this life until ‘I’ am ready to allow this to happen irrevocably.

In this sense it seems like an extremely down to earth/practical solution, not mystical in any way. Initially ‘I’ can step back and allow life to happen of it’s own accord (whilst still watching from the back seat) until ‘I’ am confident that things are simply better off when ‘I’ disappear completely. But the fact remains that life is already always happening of its own accord, ‘I’ disappear because there is no need for ‘me’ other than in complicating things.

But the practicality of it all is to do with seeing that life is already living itself.

I remember Geoffrey mentioning in a zoom chat that when ‘he’ was nearing self-immolation ‘he’ had these thoughts that ‘he’ would just leave the house keys behind and let them do what they want. This is the flavour of how I am seeing it now, it seems extremely obvious.

[bub]

One of the biggest lessons I’ve learnt too - the Taoist principle of Wu Wei.

The way never acts, but nothing is left undone.

The Master does nothing, yet he leaves nothing undone. The ordinary man is always doing things, yet many more are left to be done.

[jamesjjoo]

Kub: I remember Geoffrey mentioning in a zoom chat that when ‘he’ was nearing self-immolation ‘he’ had these thoughts that ‘he’ would just leave the house keys behind and let them do what they want. This is the flavour of how I am seeing it now, it seems extremely obvious.

JJ: I am having similar thoughts to nearing the end of my life. Just leave everything.

[Kub933]

@jamesjjoo The thing which I am getting a flavour of is that one leaves the keys and disappears not for ‘my’ peace of mind but rather as an altruistic offering for all of humankind.

This desire to ‘leave everything’ can have different motivations, it can come from desperation (selfism) where the most extreme example would be suicide. Then ‘I’ escape ‘my’ suffering by killing this body.

Or it can come from one’s firm connection to the perfection and purity where ‘I’ gladly sacrifice ‘myself’ for something far better (altruism).

[Kub933]

It is interesting where I have been for a while now. I remember a couple of years ago when I would begin having frequent EE’s, they were always incredible because they offered temporary relief from the otherwise unbearable feeling of separation, a feeling which was part and parcel of the cage that ‘I’ had created for ‘myself’.

With the cage gone that feeling of separation virtually disappeared, I now take it as a given that there is no longer this feeling of despair and desperation at being locked away. I do not experience loneliness and so I do not feel the need to belong in order to ease it.

I notice now that the only way to go up from here is to experience apperception. This is the only experience that delivers the ‘wow factor’ that I would previously get from EE’s. This is where those last vestiges of the ‘self’ also disappear and there is just the unimaginable and unbelievable perfection and purity, a magical wonderland in all regards.

Just like back then when entering the EE ‘I’ would be blown away at the extent of the release possible (when just a second prior it was as if I forgot this was even possible), now it is the same when apperception is happening. I am blown away each time at the pristine purity of it all, how even those last ‘dirty bits’ are wiped clean and this is so in every direction I could look. The funny thing is that each time ‘I’ forget that something like this is possible, until it is happening again, ‘I’ forget just the extent of the release possible, and that it is right here.

Which this makes sense as actuality is completely outside of ‘me’, it is alien to ‘me’ in that sense. ‘I’ can have a memory of it, to know that it was experienced but the extent of it can only be lived now when ‘I’ am out of the way already.

Now the interesting thing is that the PCE cannot be forced, it can only be allowed, ‘I’ cannot make a PCE happen, it is a spontaneous occurrence. Yet what ‘I’ can do is ‘set the scene’ in such a way as to increase the likelihood of it happening spontaneously.

And ‘setting the scene’ is to ‘be’ naiveté, to remain in that place where there is wonder at being here, this is where the PCE is “invited to happen”, as always spontaneously. It is where the distance between ‘me’ and actuality is so miniscule that something can happen at any moment.

It seems this is what I need to do in order to develop an utter confidence in wanting to proceed towards actual freedom. This confidence must come from the solid experience of perfection and purity.

[Kub933]

Recently on 3 occasions I have dreamt that ‘I’ self immolated

The first one not realising that I was asleep I truly believed that I was actually free haha. It was quite an intense dream, the words “you will have to do something you have never done before” seemed to be echoing and in the dream ‘I’ went into the fear that was ‘me’ and then experienced this rather dramatic end to ‘me’. It was all very real and I thought that was it! Then of course I woke up to realise that ‘I’ was still around lol.

The next 2 happened when I was napping and this time around there was the background awareness that this isn’t genuine but still there was this sense of doing something that ‘I’ have never done before, going in the 1 direction ‘I’ have never travelled in before with the entirety of ‘my’ being, and then all of a sudden it was happening.

So without assigning too much validity to what is essentially ‘my’ concoction I have been considering that this is what ‘I’ have to do for real, in ‘my’ waking state.

It seems I am nearing the end of investing in any further ‘solutions’ within the human condition. This is a habit of mine, to find the next problem and then try to solve it, really just to buy more time.

Often I will simply put a new shine on some aspect of the human condition which I have already investigated and resolved, only to sell myself on it being some new discovery, or new area for investigation.

It’s a funny one though because all these years it seemed as if I was building towards something, putting extra feathers in my cap along the way like they would eventually amount to something in themselves. And yet the prospect of self immolation means that it will all go along with ‘me’. I can see that it certainly wasn’t time wasted as there was no chance ‘I’ could sincerely consider self immolation without all this prior work.

Yet the option to self immolate was always available and it would have been no different back then as it will be when it happens now. This is because actuality exists as if a different dimension, it is outside of that bubble of illusion that ‘I’ exist in, ‘I’ am an aspect of reality in the sense that ‘I’ am an illusion which exists as part of an illusiory world, ultimately ‘my’ existential status is the same as that of reality, they cannot be separated out.
‘I’ could not leave the illusiory bubble without going into full blown delusion, because ‘I’ am simply an aspect of it. Just like Richard described the self being like a vortex in the water, there is no way to distinguish the water from the vortex other than by its movement.

So I can see that ‘I’ could not possibly enter that other dimension of actuality, which in itself is a bit of a startling discovery Indeed ‘I’ am doomed. So accepting all of the above it is seen that anything else done in the meantime is simply buying time. Just like people say “you can’t take money with you into the afterlife” well ‘I’ can’t take anything of ‘me’ into actuality haha, ‘I’ will dissolve along with all the other illusions.

I can see now that all the ingredients necessary to be able to do it are already in place, and that there is no barrier for entry from actuality. Just like Richard wrote the intestinal fortitude will be provided when it is necessary, I can see this and this is exactly what happened in the dreams. In terms of altruism I can also see that this is a dormant aspect of ‘me’ and it will be likewise activated when necessary.

In terms of the ‘how to’ it seems that this is ultimately unnecessary to consider, the specific way in which it all plays out will only be known once it is happening, to try to plan it out in advance is just another way to buy time or to even block myself completely. Ultimately it seems that each pioneer had a slightly different experience with some common themes of course.

So ‘I’ am left with somehow generating the opportunity for it to happen, or perhaps inviting the opportunity, and once the ‘escape hatch’ is glanced ‘I’ must take that opportunity now, with the entirety of ‘my’ being. It’s quite thrilling to consider these things, very weird because there is just no way to know until it happens.

[Kub933]

Reading my own reply back I realise that the real world time span also only exists in that bubble

Which means that when it happens it will be now, as it is always now, no time has actually passed between the ‘past’ and the ‘present’ and likewise the distance between the ‘present’ and the ‘future’ is ‘my’ concoction, all part of that illusiory world.

How absolutely mind boggling haha.

[Vineeto]

You have all the time in the universe …

[Kub933]

Wow yes I saw this just a few minutes ago, I was getting ready and looking in the mirror. I saw that where this body exists time has no duration, there is such an incredible safety to this. Whereas where ‘I’ exist, across past, present and future it is so precarious. It was so clear experientially that nothing could ever go wrong where time has no duration and yet intellectually ‘I’ cannot quite wrap ‘my’ mind around why.

This is incredible because I could never quite grasp the eternity of time, space was somehow easier to comprehend and I previously glimpsed that the space of this universe is infinite, as in having no edges and no outside.

But to comprehend that this moment is eternal, that time has no duration means finding something that exists outside of the real world time span altogether. It does not fit in with any descriptions revolving around the past, present and future because it exists outside of that construct altogether. It is in itself the actuality ascertained apperceptively and it is beyond wonderful!

It reminds me of Geoffrey writing that ‘he’ saw the ‘known way’ as the dangerous and the unknown way as safe, ‘I’ am the danger, where ‘I’ exist precariously across past, present and future. This body exists so safely where time has no duration.

[Kub933]

This is yet another reason why actualism is experiential because all words have been invented by feeling beings and therefore on their own they cannot quite convey actuality, they will simply go around in circles and never reveal the actual nature of this universe.

Eternal will be taken to mean a very long lapse of time or infinite a very long stretch of space and yet the actual experience of infinitude is outside of those descriptions.

All of those real world descriptions still infer some ultimate movement/distance to time/space. Whereas actual time and space exist within the stillness of infinitude.

Even writing the word “within” seems to screw it up As in that stillness is the very infinite and eternal nature of this universe.

[scout]

May I ask - what does this mean? It feels directly in opposition to the Richard quote you shared in Henry’s thread about moments being finite and constantly running out, which makes them infinitely precious and relays the urgency of not wasting time on suffering

[Shashank]

@Kub933

Just like people say “you can’t take money with you into the afterlife” well ‘I’ can’t take anything of ‘me’ into actuality haha

Haha this is a really good analogy