I think it’s like - any talking or thinking about doing it isn’t doing it.
So no matter how or what you think say or feel it’s not doing it.
This makes it seem impossible at first - cause it means if you are thinking about it you’re already failing (cause not doing it)….
Except once you realize that there is an experiential thing that we can label “doing it”, and that experiential thing you can do.
So then you just have to do that …
Yes!
That.
It will if you let it. Pure intent 
the actually existing flesh and blood Andrew is already being conscious …
It’s not like talking about it is useless, we wouldn’t be here without someone talking about it.
There just isn’t any way a thought out, step by step approach can work.
Which is why Richard insist that there is no prerequisites.
I am all for it.
Indeed, I can hardly take credit for anything that has happened so far.
Something that has been really motivating me has been reconnecting with my religious past.
Going “half way” is still half the way.
Something that means a lot to me is that Jesus was indeed an actual peasant. That probably actually died on a cross believing what he believed.
There really was a Jesus. And many more like him, that literally were nailed to crosses for what they believed would set people free.
He died at 33.
He is remembered for who knows what reasons.
Maybe he had sex appeal. Certainly quite a few women followed him around.
All the other potential “Jesus’s” were a bit on the ugly side. Nothing changes.
It doesn’t change the fact that there are thousands who have died literally for what they believed would make “all the difference”.
Yes haha that’s kinda funny once it is discovered that there is such a thing as doing it, whereas it seems as an identity all I know is emulating a description. Then there is this entire universe of actually doing something, the description is secondary.
You are completely free to make it all up afterwards.
It’s simply the option you have to “go all the way”.
Absolutely nothing is riding on it.
Or everything.
Or nothing.
Or somethings, but not other things.
Or a few things, which might matter, but currently don’t.
Or a lot of things that matter a lot, but eventually won’t.
@Srinath s words from years ago echo in my head
" Any rancour against the real world only perpetuates it".
Finding a good reason that has any animosity towards ‘oneself’; calling oneself an illusion, for example, is going to backfire.
‘you’ didn’t ask to be here. So no amount of convincing reasons will ever cut it.
Sometimes people just get it in their head that they want to find out what is across the other side of an ocean.
• [Questioner 2]: that’s fantastic! How much success did you have with the actualism method prior to this event?
• [Geoffrey]: Enjoying and appreciating this moment of being alive… is what I do.
The method makes so much sense now. It is so obvious that is the way to live.
Prior to the event? well it is hard to quantify. I guess you’re asking if this could be considered a ‘condition’, i.e. you’d have to have reached some level of ‘success’ with the method to be able to self-immolate… I don’t think so.
Although (you would not believe how clear it is to me now that) it makes no sense at all not to be enjoying and appreciating this moment of being alive.
If I was to put any ‘conditions’ on it (I’m not) it would have to do with knowing what you’re aiming for and going for it (once you know, there is no choice). And for me this required numerous PCEs, and a solid connexion to Pure Intent.
The method is imitative of the actual. In my understanding the correct application of the method was through the ‘naive remembrance’/the ‘presentiation’ of the PCE…
(From questions to Geoffrey after becoming free)
Let’s revisit this and review the facts, shall we?
There is absolutely no reason at all, given the opportunity and magical motivation, not to “skip to the end”.
The sooner that becomes the norm the sooner I can start watching the “news” again.
Anyone not 100% behind skipping to the end, cheating the test, and otherwise doing everything a 2 year old would to “get the cookies” is missing the point.
Whatever ladder, whether Richard said it or not, is utter bullshit.
If you can be here, right now, free, then there is no consideration worth even pausing for.
You know, I actually love being the class clown. Like Alan. An obvious foil.
It’s so easy to be.
99.999999 are exactly that. Parodies of sincerity.
Silently, or loudly, judging everyone else.
“Actualism” is simply a place holder term for what the universe is going to do regardless of any single human acquiescence. It is going to happen.
Somewhere.
Like a Super Nova.
We just have the opportunity to experience it.
Great , do it then 
I am absolutely all guns on deck.
Then who will be the clown?
There are 8 billion candidates. I guess I can retire.
If you can, why not?
Hey for all I know it could 100% work like that @Andrew. But personally I was always inclined to focus on what I can do now to bring it (whatever goal) about sooner rather than later, doing everything and anything I can.
Indeed.
Each is coming from wherever they are coming from.
It is hardly an even playing field.
As you say, bravado aside…
Although I am partial to bravado and balls to the wall approaches.
I am also all for dirty rats sneaking off sinking ships.
I do see 1 benefit in the kind of approach you are proposing - the ‘rebellious approach’ haha.
I have always been drawn to the opposite of that approach which is like the ‘hard worker’ approach.
So I am more inclined to accept the proposed framework as a given and work really hard within the rule-set. Whereas the rebellious approach rejects the framework and looks to find the easy and direct way instead.
I have had situations in my life where this ‘hard worker’ approach actually got me in trouble, I would notice this when someone would blatantly disrespect all the ‘rules’ I was faithfully following and still get the results!
So yeah there is a certain naiveté in that rebellious approach that can be useful. Although it seems that as always it is about finding the 3rd alternative to either being a faithful follower or a recalcitrant rebel 
Also they’re not contradictory goals. You self immolate by fully wanting it. You fully want it by removing obstacles. The obstacles to self immolating are the same as the obstacles to enjoying and appreciating. So it’s a way to remove obstacles.
If you really wanted it now it’d happen. Why isn’t it happening now? Well I am feeling bad now… why am I feeling bad? … … … and off you go
Or - I’m feeling good but X. Ok then contemplate on and reflect on X … the result will be that obstacle removed and you’ll more consistently enjoy and appreciate. Etc.
Yes nice I was thinking exactly the same @claudiu, it’s like they go hand in hand. It’s like there is wanting to be actually free and wanting to enjoy and appreciate this moment of being alive. They are not actually so different, hence why I am inclined to say that if someone rejects enjoyment and appreciation of this moment of being alive (the method) they are equally rejecting the possibility of becoming actually free.
