Kuba: Whilst all that chipping away can be done in the meantime, this has absolutely nothing to do with it. This is clear now from the recent discussions. I would like a situation where I can chip away until the last issue resolves and then boom - actual freedom, but it is not at all like that.
As you and Richard mentioned to Geoffrey in the Australia Q&As - there is no link at all between the application of the method, between chipping away at the social identity and self immolation. It is a separate event altogether and cannot be ‘trained for’ in that sense.
It’s like I thought that all this “in the meantime” business would be training me for the last event, to make it easier. But it seems the option to self immolate has been here all along, it could have been taken at any point, it did not require any training and it will not be made easier by any training.
Hi @Kuba,
Yes and no. There is no link and, as you worked out before, there is no requirement from the actual world to enter. But most people feel more confident when they are experientially well acquainted with the subject matter.
Kuba: Although I can pinpoint a couple of events which required that I allow something to happen which I cannot plan in advance. The first one was having the first PCE after starting the method, it seemed like I was chasing the impossible, but after 6 months or so it happened, I couldn’t believe it but it happened!
The second was stepping out from control, this had that same flavour of proceeding somewhere where I haven’t visited before and therefore I couldn’t work it out in advance, and yet all this energy was needed to proceed.
So I am clearly capable of it, it is more that all the various tools and techniques I was taught throughout my life cannot prepare me for this event. @jamesjjoo has/had his habit of reducing things to a single sentence and I have my habit of wanting to have the territory meticulously charted out before any motion forward.
Whereas what is needed is to be a pioneer, even though it has been done before I am a pioneer by virtue of proceeding into the unknown.
Well, everything you have done “in the meantime” has gained you confidence and experience so that you are now sufficiently equipped to dare to do the third step into the unknown – first a PCE, second going out-from-control and the third will be leaving your ‘self’ behind.
You do have pioneer qualities after all. The question now is, how to pinpoint the best moment to activate them.
Kuba: There is 1 aspect I find very freeing in the prospect of being a pioneer though, which is that there is no need to get bogged down in the ‘how to’, no need for processes and rules and regulations. No need to wait at all.
With no “processes and rules and regulations” you are free to choose the right moment for ‘you’, the identity, to be in full agreement to lay down ‘your’ burden and go into the secretly yearned-for oblivion.
‘Vineeto’ had several reasons for ‘her’, the identity, which drew her forward – there was a growing uneasiness of knowing ‘she’ was a fake, an imposter. Then there was an every-increasing awareness of a deep desire for oblivion, and an acute awareness of evil, felt as psychic vibes and currents, in others and by extension in herself. And lastly there was a caring, grown out of a deeply felt, at times, painful awareness of all the mayhem and misery which humans do to humans – and ‘she’ wanted to be instrumental to help bringing it to an end. I wrote to you about it on 24 September.
You’ll gather your own motivations for making the supreme sacrifice of what ‘you’ hold most dear, more dear than “wanting to have the territory meticulously charted out”, and find the right moment to allow it to happen and go blessedly into oblivion.
Ah, what an adventure!
Cheers Vineeto