Hi Ian,
As today’s post follows your excellent post on “the herd thing” (link), it is understandable that you contemplate “what it must actually be like to be like Vineeto when interacting with all us normies”, identifying yourself as one of the ‘herd’. Whereas Vineeto, being actually free, only meets the actual flesh-and-blood bodies, when she interacts with people and as such there are no “smallest changes in mood” or “loneliness”. There is an actual intimacy operating, no matter if the “person I’m speaking to doesn’t have the same awareness, intention, desire, value” or not.
On the last day of Claudiu’s first visit to Richard and Vineeto in April 2012 he also wondered – but he wondered the opposite – “a deep existential probing.” He “became intensely curious to see the world Richard & Vineeto were actually living in”. This naïve wonder almost catapulted him into the actual world, he just stopped himself in the last minute, lol. You can read about it here.
When Peter was naïvely “wondering what it was like for Richard living in the actual world of people, things and events as distinct from living in a self-created illusionary bubble of one’s own making” with the result that he “became aware of a quite extraordinary sweetness – a sweetness that was palpable rather than feeling based” … and the rest is history. (link)
However, you wanting to share your journey of discovery towards an actual freedom, or aspects of it, with a fellow human being does not need to be an “objection” – it can also be an expression/ motivation to look for someone who you can develop/ allow a delicious naïve intimacy with. Here is a practical example from Grace’s scale of intimacy (link) –
- Togetherness is the companionship of doing things together – be it shopping, cooking, having sex, whatever – and pertains to the willingness to be and act in concert with another.
- A closeness is where the personal boundaries are expanded to include the other into one’s own space; this is a normal type of intimacy.
- A sweetness is when closeness entrées a lovely delight at the proximity of the other (although it can veer off into affection, ardency, love, oneness).
- A richness (aka an excellence experience) is where sweetness segues into a near-absence of agency via letting-go of control and one is the sex and sexuality (the beer and not the doer).
- Magical sex is where sex and sexuality are happening of their own accord – neither beer nor doer extant – and pristine purity abounds (an immaculate perfection).
[Richard]: I also detailed how feeling-being ‘Grace’, who was exacting in evaluating ‘her’ differing ways of being a ‘self’, had gradations of scale in regards to intimacy (togetherness: → closeness: → sweetness: → richness: → magicality) – all of which correlated to the range of naïveness from being sincere to becoming naïve and all the way through being naïveté itself to an actual innocence – in the second and third paragraphs[1] following on from the above.
[1]What did not get included in those second and third paragraphs, regarding feeling-being ‘Grace’ and her rigorous gradations, was ‘her’ oft-repeated observation – regarding the onset of the third stage, on that range of naïveness, where ‘her’ gradation of ‘great’ related to sweetness – about a bifurcation manifesting where the instinctual tendency/ temptation was to veer off in the direction of love and its affectuous intimacy (due to a self-centric attractiveness towards feeling affectionate) as contrasted to a conscious choice being required so as to somehow have that sweetness then segue into a naïve intimacy via what ‘she’ described as ‘richness’ and graded as ‘excellent’. [emphases added]
At this juncture it is a good idea to apply specific attentiveness to the smallest changes in mood at the point of the “bifurcation” mentioned above to not “veer off in the direction of love and its affectuous intimacy” if possible, so as to save yourself and your intimate playmate the stark mood swings which inevitably happen when one falls for love’s trappings, which always promises but never delivers.
I wish you best of success.
Cheers Vineeto