Vineeto to Claudiu: The only time when you are possibly able to make a case is when naiveté stops operating, and pure intent is thus side-lined – then it becomes again “a puzzling state of affairs”. (link)
Kuba: Ok so this habit/mechanism is becoming pretty clear now, as it should after so many times it has resurfaced – Naiveté stops → connection to pure intent is cut → Now ‘I’ am once more doing sudorific things, solving puzzles etc.
The answer is of course to resume naiveté rather than continuing down the dead ends.
And I know when I am being naiveté because it is all so easy, there is this uncapped optimism, I am doing it / it is happening, there is no space for solving puzzles, that would require hanging back. And as for sudorific challenges, it is way too fun to become involved in this manner. (link)
Hi Kuba,
Excellent.
Now you have the map, you can actualize it.
Kuba: huh, reading the quotes you posted, Vineeto, something did click there, it is something that I have seen before, the quotes I am referring to:
Richard: By ‘being with it’ as it was happening – without moving in any direction whatsoever with escapist thoughts, feelings or urges – ‘I’ would come to experience ‘being it’ … and ‘I’ am this fear and this fear is ‘me’. Thus ‘I’ came to experience ‘myself’ in all ‘my’ nakedness. All ‘I’ am, is this fear… In other words: ‘I’ am fear and fear is ‘me’ (and ‘I’ am aggression and aggression is ‘me’; ‘I’ am nurture and nurture is ‘me’; ‘I’ am desire and desire is ‘me’).
The direct experiencing of this is the ending of ‘me’ … and I am this flesh and blood body only being here now as only this moment is. [Emphasis added]. (Richard, List B, No. 33a, 8 Oct 1999).
Richard: When it is understood that the one is the epitome of the many and that ‘I’ am the ‘many’ and the ‘many’ is ‘me’ … ‘I’ self-immolate at the core of ‘being’. (Richard, List B, No 12b, 20.7.1998).
Kuba: The seeing was almost like this entire game of being an identity is a misunderstanding. ‘I’ am ‘my’ feelings and ‘my’ feelings are ‘me’… Furthermore ‘I’ am the ‘many’ and the ‘many’ are ‘me’… There are only the passions and the drama which erupts due to these passions operating in human beings is called “the human condition”. Yet there are no ‘entities’ actually in existence, it is only that the passions have usurped human intelligence and created an illusory real world along with the various ‘who’s’ that live there.
Yes, you have seen it exactly. “This entire game of being an identity” is made seriously and deadly real via the instinctual passions. Just one correction – it is not that “the passions have usurped human intelligence” – it happened the other way round. The instinctual passions existed long before the human animal evolved into an intelligent human being. Here is a summary which I found so concise and brilliant that I like to post it here –
Richard: … it is the evolution of matter (mineral) into animate matter (life and/or nature) and thus animate matter (flora) into sensate animate matter (fauna) and sensate animate matter (saurian – mammalian – simian) into hominid sensate animate matter (proto-human) and hominid sensate matter into tool-making proto-human sensate matter (homo-habilis perhaps 2.0 million BCE) and tool-making proto-human sensate matter into tool-making fire-using human sensate matter (homo erectus perhaps 1.6 million BCE) and tool-making fire-using human sensate matter into tool-making fire-using symbol-writing human sensate matter (homo sapiens perhaps 100 thousand BCE). It is not until the advent of thought does the capacity to notice, remember, reflect, plan and thus implement considered activity for beneficial reasons (intelligence) evolve … along with the amazing ability to pass this information to others of the species, including the next generation, via language communication skills rather than grunt and gesture conveyance. Then, and only then, emerges the trait that you describe as the ‘one essential driver for knowing oneself: the wonder, the awe, the curiosity as to ask these questions (who am I, where does the universe come from, etc.)’ which, as you say, is ‘only in the human being [where] nature achieves a self-reflective consciousness that is capable of understanding itself’. (…)
I meant it in the sense that different species evolve at different rates at different places around the world … that there is no uniform evolution wherein a change here automatically happens there. Viz.: (snip quote)
I was therefore commenting that (in this specific instance) India’s paramount contribution to the retardation of evolution over the last 3,000 to 5,000 years (in that after maybe the millions of years of evolution necessary to evolve thought, thoughts and thinking (intelligence) in one animal species alone, the Masters and the Gurus and the Avatars and all the God-Men would have us value being thoughtless and mindless as if that is the highest virtue one can aspire to) is part of the mosaic of the evolutionary process and would soon become superseded when a mutation more fitted for survival takes precedence over such fantasy. [Emphasis added]. (Richard, List B, No. 33b, 29 Nov 1999).
Kuba: It was the glimpse that ‘my’ very ‘being’ has no substance at all – that if ‘I’ am seen to be merely a feeling then ‘I’ cease to exist in the entirety of ‘my’ being. This seeing was that it would be almost too easy for ‘me’ to cease existing because ‘I’ don’t actually exist in the first place.
It would be all this over absolutely nothing … that this whole time you have been conversing with a flesh and blood human being and ‘my’ whole existence was as if a huge misunderstanding.
That would be something to laugh about à la Geoffrey
Why “would be” – why isn’t it? Is there an observer in situ who keeps this vital insight, this apperceptive seeing, at arm’s length and doesn’t allow it to penetrate to the depth of your being?
Kuba: And this is that “special preciousness” of ‘being’, in that the passions have become a ‘who’, this ‘who’ feels precious beyond compare and yet ‘he’ has no actual existence, ‘he’ is merely a feeling.
Yes exactly, and to be more precise – ‘you’ are “merely a feeling”.
Kuba: And what is even more ridiculous is that the ‘many’ exist in the same manner. What ‘humanity’ has been doing is over nothing because there is not a single ‘entity’ that actually existed through all this madness. Both the ‘me’ and the ‘many’ are the instinctual passions in operation.
So 100% it is doable for all, the illusion can come to an end. Furthermore once done there is no possibility at all for going back, there would be nothing to go back to, there never was in actuality.
Of course this thing that I saw was only a glimpse as ‘I’ am still here but it seems extremely doable, exactly what Richard wrote – “The direct experiencing of this is the ending of ‘me’ … and I am this flesh and blood body only being here now as only this moment is”.
Yes, “this thing … was only a glimpse” but it was the very glimpse of direct seeing to set you free. It is not “doable” as you call it because the ‘doer’ will not be involved – one could call it ‘it is ‘be-able’. This exact-same direct seeing can also be the catalyst for leaving humanity.
Don’t turn this insight into a map, into theoretical knowledge, which is one step removed from the actuality of the landscape itself. Don’t fall for the chimera that when you move your finger along the map that you actually walk (hence my pointing to the word ‘be-able’ rather than “doable”). I say this because you mentioned that you like to know in advance what will happen before you take the next step. Break a habit and be naïve this time around, it is of vital importance – for this body, that body and every body.
Kuba: ‘I’ just have to allow ‘myself’ to be exposed like so, for the very core of ‘my’ being to be unravelled in this way. (link)
Aye, give the permission, “pull out all the stops” and allow all of ‘you’ “to be exposed like so”, warts and all. 
Cheers Vineeto