Zulip

Hi everyone,

A lot has happened in my life, especially in the last two years that I figured it is time to make a fresh start.

Where I am

Since childhood I’ve developed a defensive social identity shell, that pretty much caused me to ‘butt in’ with people from time to time. Along with it came a compensatory superiority complex. And general detachment from ‘normal’ life (which, incidentally, made me successful in my career) out of resentment of ‘normies’. The last month in particular caused that defensive shell to break down, exposing the whole morass of feelings that I was never prepared to deal with, such that I experienced a near-constant panic these last two weeks.

I didn’t want this to repeat again, so instead of retreating back to the shell (and use “actualism” to support it), I decided to thoroughly explore my social identity. I exposed the various beliefs and feelings, all the way to resentment in social hierarchies. When I realized that resentment is simply the vertical distance in these hierarchies, it dissolved giving way to fellowship regard; and I could finally like others, because they too are like me (under the spell of blind nature), and thus I can like myself.

But I can still regress and lose interest and go back to the old ways. Plus, social identity exploration still felt ‘heavy’ and sudorific to me. So, I figured it is best to allow some PCEs now and use that as lodestone. This is what I’m focused on now, and I’d like to start journal here.

Zulip

All the above also played a part in my online actualism interactions. I was rarely interested in actually practicing the method on a consistent basis. Instead, the group became a “tribe” I could safely belong to and feel superior about, something I couldn’t in the “normal” groups out there. A lot of intellectual masturbation transpired, and I rarely acknowledged my feelings with sincerity. My biggest regret is to not use the 2013 Ballina trip to explore it all; instead, I withdrew further into my shell and blamed Jon out of resentment.

On Zulip, I was spending too much time on offtopic on the then-fashionable topics (COVID, election) inconsiderately distracting other members from what the forum was set up for. When I was asked to ‘hand over the keys’ (Srinath asking me to step down as owner/moderator), I felt threatened because the ‘kingdom’ I had carefully built over the years was on the verge of ‘mutiny’ by the ‘serfs’ (thanks to Craig for this analogy). And so, out of rage, I burned the whole place down.

I can’t imagine how y’all must have felt after that. But I’m glad to see that this place exists, with a better ambiance than Zulip, not to mention Vineeto’s helpful ongoing participation. If you have any question that would help resolve any leftover ‘tension’ here, such that we can all move forward into helping one another achieve actual freedom, I’d be happy to answer them within reasonable limits.

cheers,
-srid

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Hi Srid,

Glad you are back and I enjoying reading you having some success in understanding yourself and our mutual interest here. I have always appreciated those who have invested their time and effort in making online conversations about Actualism possible. So to that point, I appreciate your efforts then in making Zulip happen (and the other chat lists) and have zero issues to resolve. Really happy to read your message, it’s strange to recognise myself in what you wrote, even though we are of course different, the “shell” is so familiar. We are all like chocolate Easter bunnies, but it’s not Easter, and it’s not chocolate! Like recognises like, and as such resentment becomes increasingly strange to hold on too.

Awesome to hear from you!

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Hi Srid,

Welcome back!

This is lovely to hear, looking forward to your further participation on the forum :slightly_smiling_face:

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Hey Andrew,

I think this protective ‘shell’ is more common among us than we may think; more so if someone had a difficult childhood. This place was once described as tending to “veer into way too abstract territory quite quickly”, and I wondered if that is but an expression of this collective ‘shell’ (intellectualizing our experience is a way of keeping our feelings at arm’s length, as opposed to being sincere).

Vineeto’s encouragement to be more naive enabled me to begin to come out of this shell; the shell became porous, but it didn’t break until I fell in love and stayed with those feelings (the panic, it just turned out, was due to despair, which is my desperate claw-like control over my future) instead of running away, back into this shell and hope again. Despair hasn’t gone away yet; it exists physically in the belly, projecting the ‘future’ as bleak (thank you, Richard, for planting the “who died a lonesome bachelor” image in me). I’m trying to stay with it, to see what comes out of it … meanwhile, any tips will be appreciated.

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I’m impressed by your self-reflection - it’s nice to have you back and writing so lucidly about yourself. I admire the persistence it took to wrap your head around all this. What a great success.

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