Hi Vineeto,
Thank you for your reply :
I will have to go into some specific detail here because I have been puzzling over this myself. And yes even thought this ‘guardian’ was experienced to be temporarily lifted the contents of it have remained.
So situation 1 :
I was sparring with a partner that has been training roughly as long as me (about 10 years) and is by all means very experienced/skilled. It was a competitive training round, with both of us working pretty hard to gain the slightest advantage over each other in order to score a win. The injury happened during a takedown as I had my hands locked around his waist and was behind him. He was training to insert one of his arms into the circumference of my lock in order to break it, and noticing this I hit a quick throw which took him backward with the arm still trapped in the lock. As the arm was trapped in the lock he fell without a post and knocked his head on the mat and was knocked out from the momentum. Now what I did is not an illegal move by any means but it is something that can be potentially risky, and in this case it did eventuate in an injury. It’s probably the kind of technique that I would not do against a beginner at all but in this scenario going against a seasoned grappler and amidst a competitive round this is what I did.
The main “nightmare scenario” here was something along the lines of him dying from the concussion and me being sent off to prison for manslaughter. I was very scared of this because I understand that without any context one would simply say “well you shouldn’t have thrown him with a trapped arm” and yet anyone who trains BJJ at a high level would understand what is required in order to control/score against a skilled opponent.
I think this more or less sums up situation 1.
Situation 2 :
This is the one that has stayed with me even more, and it was a complaint from one of the customers for a hen party which I worked recently (I don’t know which one as the company understandably will keep their privacy). The complaint was to say that my behaviour at the hen party resulted in the bride being in tears after I left and that she was extremely upset. Now this one completely blindsided me because I have done these for 8+ years and have probably accrued about 1000 parties, and in all of this not a single negative review, never mind a complaint. Now the nature of the job is by itself quite cheeky, this is what it is. So the compass I have always gone by is primarily to pay close attention to each individual to ensure that they are having a great time. That if the people present there are laughing, smiling and by all means having a great time then all is well. And of course I would increase/lower the “cheekyness” of it all depending on this feedback and also on what the group clearly wanted. There are times when I turn up to a group that are particularly shy and I can see this, of course they still hired me to provide a specific service so I proceed, but in those cases I will lower that “cheekyness” level to something that is acceptable for them. And of course in any case of an explicit lack of consent for anything I don’t proceed at all. Now I cannot recall any situations in the past months where I could have the slightest inkling that anyone present was upset, never mind extremely upset and leading to tears! There was not any case of me going against an explicit lack of consent and yet clearly something happened somewhere that resulted in this outcome.
The “nightmare scenario” here was something along the lines of being made out to be some kind of a sexual predator. This one particularly put the breaks on because it completely blindsided me. It’s like the compass that appeared to have been working so fabulously all of sudden it had this major oversight.
And so basically this is where I thought was the danger of no longer working to the various morals, principles and creeds. Because yes I operate within the legal laws and protocols but in a situation where one’s character is judged it seems to be a tick in my favour if I also demonstrably live to the various moral and ethical creeds. Like in scenario 2 if I explicitly ask for consent every 2 seconds then it would work in my favour, whereas going by implicit consent of observing someone’s responses etc would not be considered as good. And the same with situation 1, I could just never do any technique that is even a little risky which would certainly prevent these events and yet it would mean that I could never hang with anyone experienced, as it’s just not how it works, there is a certain level of tenacity required to score against a seasoned opponent, but the general public does not know these things. Hence those nightmare scenarios surrounding some kind of public damnation.
Essentially it’s something like a fear of being put under a witch hunt and not having this “oh look but I’m a moral citizen” to assist me.
And so to add to this, this is why I went on this additional exploration in this post. That I wanted to triple check that there isn’t any of this pursuit of “my happiness” which is actually not harmless. That I wanted to have the utmost certainty that it is safe to operate amorally, that it is safe to “step out of line” with regards to no longer conforming to the various moral creeds. Now whether those 2 situations would have happened if ‘I’ was not around I am not sure, perhaps there would be even more caring and even more consideration so that even these rare events would not take place. But then even Srinath wrote that he had someone try to throw a punch at him! And even Richard experienced all manner of attacks on his character.
I mean I have even spoken with forum members here and they have said some outrageous things about Richard and Vineeto, about what they apparently did, of course with this isomorphism in place the actions of actually free people are simply viewed through that ‘normal’ lens. The post written by Richard’s grandson a while back really demonstrates this, that Richard was this “kind of crazy dude living on a broken down boat” to him.
Now even me and Sonya at a certain time around the “rift thread” had seen / projected ‘Vineeto’ as some kind of “HR lady” character
So update about situation 2 :
I did check with the agency and they explained the situation further, it was a job where the group were by all means having a great time (so my compass was not incorrect), I do remember that through all this the bride was sort of “to the side” though, and it appears that the situation was just a little too much for her / not to her liking, even though she had not been personally involved. So with this information at hand I don’t know if this was a lack of caring, perhaps I should have seen that she specifically was not having the greatest of times and not focused so much on the rest of the group instead. But I also do remember arriving at the venue to begin with and when saying hi to the bride noticing that she was quite overwhelmed by the whole situation, that it “was not her thing”, so it seems like a situation that is just doomed to fail from start.