Kub933's Journal

[geoffrey]

@claudiu

Basically the way he put it is, what will happen in the universe if I physically die? Essentially nothing except this body is dead (most of it will continue as-is). And the point is that the only difference with self-immolating rather than dying, is that there is a body that will continue being conscious (and not fall into a coma or whatever). But for me it will be exactly the same as if the body physically died, no difference whatsoever for me – total extinction. That put the notion to rest that I would continue in any way after self-immolating.

I’ll just comment on this for the benefit of readers.

Be very clear that all this ^^ is from the point of view of the identity, who goes willingly into oblivion, both because it has seen without the shadow of a doubt that it would be to the benefit of this body, that body, and everybody to do so; and because it secretly desires it. The second point is the ‘blessed’ dimension of oblivion, that is accessible experientially - which I tried to impart to you the next day -, and that you seem to be missing here. The main point, that you also make no mention of, is of course caring, and further altruism, which requires for its activation the total grasp and absolute certainty, derived from the experience of the PCE and lived by the identity through near-actual-caring in particular, that if there is “no difference whatsoever for me”… there is all the difference for the world whether a body without identity “will continue being conscious”. And by “for the world” I mean no abstract thing, I mean: for this body, that body, everybody.