Kuba: So earlier I was wondering how is it that it’s possible to live in peace and harmony without all that ‘tried and true’ stuff, what happens when morality is removed, when there is no contract, blueprint, belief, value etc to guide one’s actions. Essentially it is that “leaf blowing in the wind” furphy, and this has now been obliterated!
I especially like this word amorality, this is exactly it. In ‘my’ case it is amorality sourced in / facilitated by naivete. For some reason this has brought up a memory of that writing where you described how you experience yourself :
Vineeto: Since then I experience myself as what I am, not just this physical body but with particular qualities to the experiencing which to my own surprise I called ‘what I always wanted to be/what I have always been’ even though I have never lived it. For an analogy of how I experience what I am at core I have to go into the Greek mythology where people’s imagination had populated nature with nymphs, inherent/ chthonic to springs or trees or groves. This experience of myself is very light and playful, as if living naked in the wilderness, utterly on my own and undeniably undefined by either people or events. I described it as being innocence personified. Sensuosity, sensuality and sexuality are as much part of what I am just as sexuality and abundance are happening in nature everywhere. (Private correspondence, 29 November 29, 2010). (link)
Kuba: This is also amorality, this time it is part and parcel of actual innocence. But this amorality is not empty, it is not a “leaf blowing in the wind” etc. There is something wonderful that is at the basis of one’s actions / inclinations when actually free.
I can see now that it is completely safe to eliminate the lot of ‘human wisdom’, that not even a shred of that stuff is required. Wow I am still blown away by this seeing haha!
And the problem with any morality is that it gets in the way of freely enjoying and appreciating what one is. So I can see now that proceeding in this direction where I am going there is no need at all for morality, and it is this absence of any ‘human’ construct which allows enjoyment and appreciation without any cap, or any kind of restricting influence. (link)
Hi Kuba,
They are great insights and you managed to gain some more information how life in the actual world would look like from ‘my’ perspective (if pure intent was operating).
I compared it once to a game of chess in a message to Roy on May 1 this year –
Vineeto: It’s like playing chess with yourself – on one side the identity programmed to keep the status quo and on the other side your sincere intent to feel good, feel excellent, be more naïve, more considerate, a friend to yourself and benevolent towards your fellow human beings. (link)
Having followed your process for a while now, seemingly getting closer to becoming free but never quite, I am reminded more of a poker game where ‘I’ prestidigitatiously manifest one card after another to keep ‘my’ game going. You twigged to it yourself in the next message.
However, no matter how many times each particular objection gets invalidated the ultimate objection (that ‘I’ don’t want to go extinct) still remains intact.
What do you reckon?
Cheers Vineeto