James: You are correct. I am an identity using my flesh and blood body as a host. I don’t believe that I am already a flesh and blood body. I have had experiences of being a flesh and blood body, which were temporary, so I do understand what it means to be flesh and blood w/o a ‘precious identity’.
I can see that I need to be more specific so as not to be misunderstood.
I will now be more aware of being flesh and blood w/o this ‘precious identity’.
These discussions here are helping me to get back to the core. I remember in the past that reading TMOBA helped me to become aware of being the flesh and blood body and now I see that it is ‘my precious’ identity that needs to be given up. (link)
Hi James,
Good. Being accurate in your self-observation and reporting is essential.
When you say “I see that it is ‘my precious’ identity that needs to be given up” it is a very generalized statement, because that means the same as “all of ‘me’”. Now that you know the bigger picture you can zoom in on detailed observation and fascinated attention how this “precious identity” plays out in real life in yourself in detail. For instance, when you get annoyed, irritated, confused, moody, apprehensive, and so on you allow this feeling long enough to recognized what it is, feel it, be it, and only then make the conscious choice to be feeling good instead. Don’t push anything under the rug. This way you get to know more and more in detail what your “precious identity” consists of.
It’s important to remember that actualism is not about not having feelings –
Richard: Often people who do not read what I have to say with both eyes gain the impression that I am suggesting that people to stop feeling … which I am not. My whole point is to cease ‘being’ – psychologically and psychically self-immolate – which means that the entire psyche itself is extirpated. That is, the biological instinctual package handed out by blind nature is deleted like a computer software programme (but with no ‘Recycle Bin’ to retrieve it from) so that the affective faculty is no more. Then – and only then – are there no feelings … as in a pure consciousness experience (PCE) where, with the self in abeyance, the feelings play no part at all. However, in a PCE the feelings – passion and calenture – can come rushing in, if one is not alert, resulting in the PCE devolving into an altered state of consciousness (ASC) … complete with a super-self. Indeed, this demonstrates that it is impossible for there to be no feelings whilst there is a self – in this case a Self – thus it is the ‘being’ that has to go first … not the feelings.
It is impossible to be a ‘stripped-down’ self – divested of feelings – for ‘I’ am ‘my’ feelings and ‘my’ feelings are ‘me’. Anyone who attempts this absurdity would wind up being somewhat like what is known in psychiatric terminology as a ‘sociopathic personality’ (popularly known as ‘psychopath’). Such a person still has feelings – ‘cold’, ‘callous’, ‘indifferent’ – and has repressed the others. (Richard, List B, No. 19c, 26 June 1999)
Kuba’s last post, just above yours, can give you some further clues about how to harness “the passionate energy of ‘me’” –
Kuba: The other thing I can see now is that any “combination” of the passionate energy of ‘me’ can be used as a spring-board into actual freedom. ‘I’ am the passions and the passions are ‘me’ and as such they all contain the possibility for that seeing which is the ending of ‘me’. So the specifics of how this plays out for each identity can be different. The key to the door marked “oblivion” is contained within each of ‘my’ passions, the very energy of ‘my’ being has the seed for its own undoing.
I can observe this in ‘myself’ that no matter what flavour of the passions, that seeing and that possibility is always there. (link)
Cheers Vineeto