Kub933's Journal

Vineeto: Yes, human language is entirely created and developed by feeling beings with a past, present and future as a straight line to go from A to B to C until death.

Kuba: Yes this is exactly what I was trying to get at, I find it takes a bit of adjusting to be able to interact with others when at times it is as if we are speaking a different language. I wonder if this is a skill that one polishes as an actually free person, accounting for identities when speaking with identity encumbered bodies?
This “paying lip service” is more difficult whilst in virtual freedom as ‘I’ am still in some ways stirred by this ‘real world language’, it is like ‘I’ am in-between reality and actuality and can kind of speak both languages, but neither is fluent. :laughing:

Hi @Kuba,

You wonder if “speaking a different language” is a skill one polishes as an actually free person. In a way yes. When I read Richard’s correspondence I can see how by accurately conveying how he is experiencing himself he is honing his skills to report and describes as clearly as possible to his correspondents how he is experiencing himself as what he actually is. As it is a direct ongoing experience and unmediated by self-image, ethical or moral constraints, imagination and many other ‘self’-inflicted distortions, the description arises from the very experience itself. What can be, and is polished, is a larger variety of word choices, sentence structures, qualifiers to pre-empt misunderstanding and so on.

In normal life conversations (not on a specifically topical mailing list) I find there is a fair amount of ‘lip-service’ but I still stick to facts as much as possible when someone asks me for instance how I am today. In longer meetings I often am happy to take the part of listener and let the prevailing intimate atmosphere do the rest. It is often astounding how intimate some shorter or longer conversations can become when the other person is perceptive of/sensitive to the vibe-free and friendly milieu.

Only yesterday morning when visiting the workshop of the person fixing my air conditioner, we ended up having a conversation for about an hour where I had asked them about their medical troubles, which they had mentioned in passing the day before. They regaled me with their medical and practical odyssey which I found very interesting and informative and we both enjoyed each other’s company because of the intimacy which ensued from the absence of psychic vibes (on my part), the undivided attention and mutual interest.

I don’t think you need to be much concerned, Kuba, as it will be sincerity and naiveté which determine what you say, and only if you would want to present an image of what you are not, you could get tangled up in ‘language problems’.

Cheers Vineeto

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