Handedness

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Exploring for no reason except how central this is to my experience of being alive; how do actually free people experience handedness pre actual freedom and post actual freedom?

For context, I am left handed but through ease of access to instruments, play guitar right handed. Over 15 years ago, I began learning guitar left handed as well, but as I assume that my advanced age of being well into my 30s, had prevented any kind of prodigious advancement.

how much of handedness is emotionally driven?

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I can’t speak for actually free folks but personally speaking I don’t see how handedness has anything to do with my emotions.
I am primarily left handed but use my right hand for other things. For example, I write and eat left handed and throw a ball right handed. It has always been like this since an early age and seems natural.

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Wow!

That is very interesting! Writing left handed and throwing a ball right handed!

The interest in the topic has been a very long time.

You seem to be quite ambidextrous. Throwing a ball is a complex movement, the same as writing. You are the first person I have ever heard of which was able to do them with opposite hands!

It actually really cool for me to contemplate that! I always had a pride about being left handed and being naturally gifted with art and music. However, the vast majority of people are right handed, and thus the vast majority of artists and musicians are right handed.

I had begun to contemplate that being left handed was not the badge of honour to an elite club I once thought it to be, but rather a curious and inconsistent “gift”. Sometimes being beneficial, but sometimes being just “different “.

That is really very interesting to me, that you can do those highly complex actions with opposite hands.

Thanks James!

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Interesting that I am also left handed. But I don’t think handedness will disappear / change with actual freedom, perhaps something to check in a PCE, im pretty sure my handwriting would still be horrific with the right hand in a PCE :laughing:, it is a coordination thing at the end of the day and such is not identity based. For sure it would be much more fun and stress free to practice utilising a non-dominant hand in a PCE though!

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Thanks for the reply @Kub933 and @jamesjjoo

I have always been so invested as an identity in being left handed. It’s definitely one of the touchstones of my emotional life.

I continue to let the path unfold with these things. I may or may not be around tomorrow, through no particular choice of my own, that just how life goes (I am not aware of any reason I wouldn’t be around). For me this is a distinctly different approach and experience of being interested in Actualism.

Rather than trying to figure out something, being open to letting it unravel over days and weeks. The desperation I always felt is something I associate with handedness. Rightly or wrongly, I saw patience as something very “right handed”, and impatience and instant inspiration as left handed. In other words, I cut myself of from progress over time.

I may also be any type of ADD or even slightly autistic. Who knows, the world is definitely waking up to all the myriad of quirks of being a self with it’s diagnosis or many often novel new things.

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Hi Andrew,

You know I was thinking about your recent writings this morning as it clicked to me that actualism is not intuitive. I think this summarises your kind of approach right? Where the emotional (intuitive) experience is of primary importance, where change over time due to practice is disregarded in favour of all or nothing immediate insights etc.

It clicked for me when I saw this morning what
it means to emotionally accept the intellectually unacceptable. For the longest of time something was off for me when I read that statement, it didn’t feel right, it didn’t make intuitive sense and so I made no effort to apply this to my life. And the same can be said for the advice to put everything on a preference basis.

Those 2 bits of advice, of course they do not make intuitive sense, because what “makes intuitive sense” for ‘me’ is to remain exactly as ‘I’ am, as blind nature has programmed ‘me’ to ‘be’.

But then I thought to the various endeavours that human beings engage in, those things afforded to us through the operation of intelligence, and realised that they too are not intuitive, hence they take learning and practice. Humans thrive because of intelligence and not because of intuition.

So it seems that intuition itself should be put under the microscope, and to already conclude a line of enquiry when it begins to feel right / wrong is to stop before the exploration even starts!

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I find it interesting that 10% of the world population has always been left - handed and three people who write on this forum are left handed which must be much greater than 10%.

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Hi Kuba,

Very well spotted and I concur that you are correct. I seek some ultimate “intuitive “ emotional moment. This is very much exactly it! I can’t, or should say, could not contemplate development over time….i wanted instant intuitive perfection, which was later dressed up as artistic perfection.

Which also explains why I always write in extremes. This has always bothered me. I am otherwise a contemplative and considerate speaker. In writing, an extremist!

Writing has been to me like music. I want an ultimate artistic expression! A statement of eternal value! Just like the scripture and proverbs, I was raised on.

I also have had a “hard time with Richard saying “emotionally accepting “. I have been deliberately making myself contemplate this statement for weeks now. That an a few other statements. Letting that annoyance sweep over me, as I remind myself that the most significant human I ever met, held this to be an important consideration.

You have definitely nailed me down here. That instant perfectionist attitude, is actually an instant “intuitive “ attitude. That I have through no particular fault of my own, as an individual called Andrew H, created a reality in which there is this artistic perfection around what is actually no distortion a two year old tantrum, or even before that, the “innocent “ cry of a new born; that is; everything must feel perfect, for me, right now!

Ha.

And so starts my contemplation of what being an “artist “ is. Hehe

As a side note, I have been telling my sons that music was stolen from the common people, especially in the 20th century. When music was recorded and sold, it was immediately important to amplify the distinction between those who have talent and those less talented. The first rule of capitalism is scarcity. If you don’t have a market, make one!

And so, within one hundred years, what was the domain of everyone, became the domain of the few “stars”. In that exchange, the capitalists made fortunes convincing the common person that their “artists “ where the sole conduits of the music we had held in common for hundreds of thousands of years.

Peasants of creation.

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Even I what I just wrote, there was this attitude of being vague, and mysterious.

I feel this is very fertile ground for the coming weeks.

I like saying that, coming weeks. It’s counterintuitive to me. I have always felt that I was about to die. A certain terror that it was already too late.

I could, factually, die in traffic tomorrow. Or in my sleep tonight. As a matter of fact. That is the thrill I never allowed myself to feel and indulge in.

I have jumped out of a plane. Driven over 200km/ph. But those extremes were curated. Contrived.

Just facing the fact that I will most likely live, but could also die, in the most mundane ways! That is the trick.

It’s art, but far better than art. A completely uncelebrated art. The art of anonymity and down to earth realities. Ones I will not be able to articulate, though I will try…

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Factually, there are differences between dominant handedness. Exactly what those facts are, is more unclear to me now.

It’s the same as being genetically part “red head”, two of the four brothers were red heads, the other two blonde.

I have read that emotions are expressed differently in red heads. For the record both of my red headed brothers are dead. One suicide, one fentanyl overdose. The one closest to me was dyslexic. The youngest had “perfect pitch” and was a natural fighter.

I really crave these days to be someone normal. Steady. To be able to work through things like I imagine others can.

This question of handedness is about taking something down from the shelf of ways I make excuses, but also hold myself above others.

Ironically, my imagination that there are “normal “ people may be the most silly of all my imaginations.

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Hi Andrew,

Just a quick addition (I haven’t had a chance to look at your responses properly yet as I’m very busy lately), I wanted to share what to me is such a wonderful contemplation. That whatever ‘intuitive wisdom’ which may be contained within blind natures instinctual programming surely is just a temporary walk-in. To consider that actuality pre-dates any ‘intuitive wisdom’, in that the perfection and purity of infinitude has been here eternally.

When I contemplate the above, I loose any and all interest in the ‘wisdom’ which blind nature has to offer, it pales in comparison.

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Hi Kuba,

Oh, you have triggered me! But not in an angry way. Just that I have for a long time considered life to be concurrently eternal with everything that exists. As in, life doesn’t exist in some pocket, but rather is just as perpetual as anything else (stars and galaxies, matter and energy).

This actually is the most fundamental question of life. The origin of evil. Did the human condition appear out of no where?

When you say that actuality predates any “intuitive wisdom “ I suppose we can be sure that is true on this planet. If it’s true in the absolute sense, we would have answered a lot of other questions in the meantime.

I do remember reading that Richard had a very immediate answer to the question. That in the absence of evidence for life (of our type) we are probably alone. I am sure this is not exactly what he said, but the idea of life , and the human condition that arose in it, being unique to a single instance in all eternity, really mocks the meaning of eternity. It creates a middle. A point, different fundamentally from all other points.

A small dot, which mocks the definition of eternity and infinity.

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Perhaps, in the myriad of infinite ways life can evolve, some timelines are better, that is less disastrous to personal happiness than others. In this way we can admit all of the infinite possibilities and not make our own experiences special. I think it’s illogical to make humanity and its drama special in infinite and eternal actuality. That is the creationist perspective. The geocentric view. That the earth by proxy, is the centre of the universe. That is we are the centre.

I would indeed be interested in the perspective of a PCE on the matter. Maybe soon. Who knows? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Whoops, I did it again. Set myself up against a vaguely remembered opinion of Richard and shot it down.

Ok, for intellectual integrity’s sake, I am going to find the AFT discussion.

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Hi Andrew,

Yes I remember this was my impression when we spoke on zoom, I thought wow Andrew is nothing like the posts! haha.

Ha I can relate here as the other week I experienced some intense and long lasting heart palpitations, they were triggered by reaching into a cupboard to grab a cloth so that I could wipe the carpet cleaner… I was laying down with that cloth on the floor nearby, as what I feared to be a heart attack in the making was going on, surely no more of a mundane way to go! :laughing:

Well Richard wrote that the fact of the human condition existing in the first place is a trade off for consciousness being able to arise out of matter. So even if consciousness arises out of matter in other areas of the universe (along with the corresponding “alien conditions” :smile:) it is still a temporary walk in, it is actuality which is pre-eminent :

Richard: The purity of life emerges from the perfection that wells up constantly due to an immense stillness which is utterly immense in its scope and magnitude. This stillness of infinitude is that something which is precious. It is the life-giving foundation of all that is apparent. This stillness happens as me. This stillness is my essential disposition, for it is the principle character, the intrinsic basis of everything. It is this universe at its genesis. It is not, as it might commonly be supposed, at the centre of everything … there is no centre here. This stillness, which is everywhere all at once, is the be all and end all of life itself. I am the universe experiencing itself as a sensate, reflective human being

Hmm, if you can find the correspondence that would be super interesting!