From Basic Freedom to Full Actual Freedom

Kuba: This persistence of the guardian after self immolation means that really there is no excuse not to do it right away.
I appreciate these kinds of conversations need to be had carefully as not to muddy the waters, I think now is a good and safe time to have them, with @Vineeto’s involvement on the forum. I would advise for others to remain cautious of what I wrote however.

Hi Kuba,

Indeed there is no excuse not to self-immolate right away. Since Richard wrote the Formation and Persistence of Social Identity (link) we know that the social identity/guardian persists after self-immolation and that it needs to be observed carefully and dealt with afterwards. However, as I stated, when the instinctual passions and the feeling being formed thereof are extinct it is, much easier to diligently re-examine any false notions one may have picked up about what is actual.

I like your advice for anyone to be cautious, because the social identity can still create non-passionate but nevertheless false identities.

Kuba: Now my next question is, where does agency fall in this regard? Does agency disappear completely with the feeling being or is agency wrapped up with the societal aspects, as in does this “wraithlike presence” attempt to assert some form of agency, even after the dissolution of the feeling being? It seems it does as it - “dictates ‘how an actual freedom should be acted out’”.

The question about agency (as a general term) is inconclusive because agency applies to feelings, social identity and acting as a fully free person with pure intent. Even if I go shopping, I employ agency for timing or shopping list, for instance, so agency is still needed.

Just one definition (there are more in the Abditorium, link) –

• agency: intervening action towards an end; action personified; a source of action towards an end. ~ (Oxford Dictionary)

Agency is used at any stage of your process. Perhaps you can specify what exactly you mean by the agency in question or use another word. So far I have to guess too much in order to properly answer your query.

Cheers Vineeto