Connection to pure intent without contact?

[rick]

But you are already aware that I define the feeling-being to exist in fact. For example:

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@Kub933

Do you take ‘me’ to be a fact? If so then ‘I’ will forever muddle any attempt at pure contemplation.

If I get angry then is it not a fact that I got angry? That is, if I were angry, I would be in fact angry. Anger would be the fact of the situation. Denying this would be to deny the fact that anger was occurring. Do you deny the fact that you are a feeling being? If you do not deny the fact that you are a feeling being, then you have to acknowledge the fact that you (a feeling being) are in fact a fact, because it is a fact that you are a feeling being. Is that not a fact?

The crux of the question posed in this topic which you initiated was: How can there be a connection between something that doesn’t actually exist (feelings and feeling beings) and something that does actually exist (pure intent and traffic jams) without there being any contact between the two? I am suggesting that the fact that one experiences the other – that is, the fact that the actual experiences the non-actual, and the non-actual experiences the actual – signifies contact between the two, because, if for no other reason, contact is inherent to the nature of experience.

Which is why I asked you about your experience:

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@rick

If the body’s experience of the car is, as you say, clouded (by the presence of self), then the body experiences not only the car, but the cloud. That is, the body experiences the presence of self. Yes? No

The body can experience the presence of self/reality via attentiveness.

Since the body (the actual) experiences the presence of self (the non-actual), then is there – or is there not – contact between sensation and affect; actual and non-actual; purity and impurity?

I am interested in exploring the nature of that which exists at the point of contact. Is the point of contact actual, non-actual, or a hybrid of the two? How does the one touch the other?