Andrew

[claudiu]

Hi Josef,

@Josef

I don’t think that’s what he said at all. He said he would give himself permission to feel good, happy & harmless unilaterally. I don’t see any mention of doing whatever he wants (self-centrically) without consideration for anyone else.

It’s more that that’s what would end up happening if the impetus comes from ‘me’ rather than from pure intent.

@Josef

And even in practice, I have found that the actualism feeling good (not good feelings), is so blithesome and benign in its nature that it is always accompanied by harmlessness.

That is an excellent sign

@Josef

@claudiu

I don’t think this is really a very high bar, as in a difficult thing to do. One just has to know that one has to do it and then make the commitment to actually try. Why wait and delay by trying something else (something inferior) first?

This is why I called it gatekeeping. I don’t have pure intent if the strict definition is that is has to be born of a PCE. I don’t have a good memory of a PCE.

I was able to pinpoint pure intent without having a good memory of a PCE! This was news to Richard & Vineeto at the time (~2012). So, you don’t need one to “qualify”.

@Josef

But I do have the intent that I don’t ever want to feel miserable again. That I want to be in a good mood each and every moment again. I’ve seen how beneficial it is for myself and others when I am feeling good. But should I not start on this path unless I meet the strict definition of having pure intent?

I would put it that it’s more you don’t want to dismantle the entire edifice of socialization, morality, conditioning, etc., thoroughly and at the very root, up until you have pinpointed that which is outside yourself to ensure a safe sailing through it all. You would not be able to succeed anyway. But in the meantime I don’t see why you couldn’t use the actualism method. So I should walk back what I wrote here:

@claudiu

It is the self-less/self-sacrificial following of pure intent (which is outside of the human condition) which is what ensures the actualism method can safely be employed.

I don’t see why you couldn’t start to use the actualism method before having that clear connection. Feel good. When feeling good dips, use the tools, trace it back to when it happened, see why, etc. And this ensures more of a feeling good. And on it goes from there.

This will at some point result in having a PCE or finding pure intent/pure intent becoming apparent. And that’s when it can really take off from there.

I’m having difficulty putting it into words exactly what I mean. When you are guided by pure intent, you do end up unilaterally dismantling all the socializing and conditioning etc, via giving yourself permission to have it happen. And it is a happy and harmless dismantling (both together). I just don’t see how you can successfully do it without pure intent, though. Maybe I’d put it that you can start, and make good headway, but you will always be limited until you do find pure intent, get a flavor of it, learn how to allow it, etc. But the point isn’t that it’s a limitation per se, like you have to wait until it happens, but rather something you can actively gear yourself towards, find that connection sooner rather than later!

What you think @Vineeto ?

Cheers,
Claudiu