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[JonnyPitt]

@Vineeto

Ha, what a brilliant cynical put-down of an actual freedom from the human condition, by someone who likes bluffing

I just took a course on how to bluff more effectively. But that’s poker not anywhere else. In poker one bluffs their chips to get the chips that are already in the middle. Those chips can then be cashed out for money. Which can then be used to keep the lights on at home and the belly full. One needs leverage to bluff and a pot worth bluffing for. Bluffing doesn’t work without leverage and isn’t necessary if there’s nothing to win.

@Vineeto

because in reality he is afraid to leave his seemingly safe cage when the doors are wide open, and he could instead enjoy and appreciate this moment of being alive.

That is exactly what I was trying to convey! I was looking for objections to staying as near to the actual world as I was. My focus then and there was on my objections. I am absolutely afraid of leaving my “seemingly safe cage”. That’s exactly what I wanted to convey. Though I wouldn’t use the term “safe cage.” More like fortifications. I am afraid of abandoning these fortifications for fear that an enemy will take advantage.

@Kub933

It’s funny cos the other day @Sonyaxx was looking at AI generations of her favourite fiction books and looking at those pictures of a magical wonderland I said to her “this is what a PCE is like”. Of course there’s no monsters and elf’s…

That’s it exactly!

@Kub933

those qualities that @Vineeto described below also come to mind :

V – Man from Sydney re towards Full Freedom

Since then I experience myself as what I am, not just this physical body but with particular qualities to the experiencing which to my own surprise I called ‘what I always wanted to be/what I have always been’ even though I have never lived it. For an analogy of how I experience what I am at core I have to go into the Greek mythology where people’s imagination had populated nature with nymphs, inherent/chthonic to springs or trees or groves.

Exactly! It was so magical that it reminded me of mythology. For me it was medieval fables and fairy tales that came to mind but same difference. As my attention was focused on my own objections, it occurred to me that this fantastical quality may be what I am afraid of.

@claudiu

Hi Jon,

Hi Claudiu. I agree with everything you wrote. Just one a little note. I was looking for my own personal objections, which I knew to be irrational and factually inaccurate. I chose to put those objection into words and share them because I don’t remember ever hearing an objection expressed in that way before. I thought it was interesting how imaginary conflicts can seem more valid than actual peace. And how that dichotomy between made-up conflicts and actual peace got me to experience a fear that I was choosing to go crazy. Hence the terms derealization and depersonalization. Because it felt a little bit crazy to ignore the dangers I take for granted and to go towards an utter peace that is completely outside the common consensus. Like bathing with alligators simply because one is dirty and nothing can possibly befall me. I’m not saying moving towards actual freedom is crazy: That it’s like bathing with alligators. I’m just saying that is the objection I’m currently exploring.